Follow Your Tao with Stephanie Nosco

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Nyk Danu Yoga: Hi Yinies, and welcome back to a yin Yoga. Podcast

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Nyk Danu Yoga: I have a guest interview. Today. I’m going to talk to someone about a fantastic book.

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Nyk Danu Yoga: okay, my friends. Today we have a guest interview

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Nyk Danu Yoga: with Stephanie Nosco.

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Nyk Danu Yoga: I’ll read you her bio. And she recently not that long ago, put out a book which we’re going to talk about today. I’ve read it. It’s amazing. Here it is for those of you that are on Youtube.

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Nyk Danu Yoga: You can see it

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Nyk Danu Yoga: if you’re not on Youtube. And you want to see the cover of the book because it’s stunning. By the way.

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Nyk Danu Yoga: you can always just hop over to the full show notes which is on my blog. There’s a link wherever you’re listening to this, and you can see images and such there.

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Nyk Danu Yoga: Okay.

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Nyk Danu Yoga: so a little bio about. Stephanie.

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Nyk Danu Yoga: Stephanie is a psychotherapist, somatic educator and a dedicated practitioner and student of Qigong, Chinese medicine, Buddhism and depth psychology

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Nyk Danu Yoga: residing on the beautiful Vancouver Island so she’s my neighbor.

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Nyk Danu Yoga: not technically like in my building, but we live on the same island.

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Nyk Danu Yoga: She draws inspiration from her dreams. Nature and the wisdom of the 5 elements to explore the complexities of the human experience.

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Nyk Danu Yoga: Her teaching approach weaves together ancient wisdom and modern practices, making abstract concepts relatable and accessible

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Nyk Danu Yoga: as a teacher on glow. Formerly Yoga glow. She shares sorry Qigong practices with a global audience and leads silent Qigong and meditation retreats worldwide.

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Nyk Danu Yoga: Stephanie is also the author of

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Nyk Danu Yoga: Follow your Dao, which is that beautiful book I just held up

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Nyk Danu Yoga: a book that introduces the physical, psychological, and spiritual functions of the 5 primary organs in Chinese medicine.

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Nyk Danu Yoga: Additionally, she conducts comprehensive teacher training programs in Chinese energetics, equipping Yoga instructors, body workers and therapists with a more

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Nyk Danu Yoga: with

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Nyk Danu Yoga: oh.

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Nyk Danu Yoga: let’s try that again, shall we? All right?

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Nyk Danu Yoga: Oh.

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Nyk Danu Yoga: today.

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Nyk Danu Yoga: even in our language, you know.

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Nyk Danu Yoga: And then.

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Nyk Danu Yoga: Hi, everyone. My name is Stephanie Mosco, and welcome.

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Nyk Danu Yoga: Okay, cut

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Nyk Danu Yoga: round 2.

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Nyk Danu Yoga: Let me introduce you to today’s guest.

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Nyk Danu Yoga: everyone. My name is Stephanie Mosco, and welcome

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Nyk Danu Yoga: all right round. 3. Let me introduce you to today’s guest.

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Nyk Danu Yoga: Stephanie Nusco.

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Nyk Danu Yoga: So I’ll read you. Stephanie’s Bio

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Nyk Danu Yoga: Stephanie is a psychotherapist, somatic educator and dedicated practitioner and student of Qigong Yoga, Chinese medicine

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Nyk Danu Yoga: Buddhism, and depth psychology.

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Nyk Danu Yoga: residing on beautiful Vancouver Island. So technically, we live on the same island. I didn’t even know that

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Nyk Danu Yoga: she draws inspiration from her dreams. Nature and the wisdom of the 5 elements to explore the complexities of the human experience.

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Nyk Danu Yoga: Her teaching approach weaves together ancient wisdom and modern practices, making abstract concepts relatable and accessible

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Nyk Danu Yoga: as a teacher on glow which is formerly Yoga glow. She shares Qigong, practices with a global audience and leads silent Qigong and meditation retreats worldwide.

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Nyk Danu Yoga: Stephanie is also the author of Follow your Dao. That’s the beautiful book that I’m holding up. If you’re watching the video, if not, you can see it on my blog

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Nyk Danu Yoga: that introduces the physical, psychological, and spiritual functions of the 5 element primary organs of Chinese medicine.

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Nyk Danu Yoga: Additionally, she conducts comprehensive teacher training programs in Chinese energetics.

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Nyk Danu Yoga: equipping Yoga instructors, body workers and therapists to work more deeply at the spiritual level of health.

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Nyk Danu Yoga: All right. So that’s a little bit about Stephanie. And when you hear from me. Next I will be with Stephanie.

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Nyk Danu Yoga: Just a reminder.

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Nyk Danu Yoga: dear listeners, that this is an adult podcast with adult subject, matter and adult language.

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Nyk Danu Yoga: that myself, and some of my guests have souls of mermaids, but mouths of sailors. So if you have little people around.

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Nyk Danu Yoga: please put some headphones on. Now

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Nyk Danu Yoga: welcome, Stephanie.

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Stephanie Nosco: Thank you. It’s so good to be here.

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Nyk Danu Yoga: This is very exciting one, because I just completely read your book and nerded out.

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Nyk Danu Yoga: So that’s exciting.

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Nyk Danu Yoga: But also what a lot of the listeners don’t know, probably, is that we actually come from the same city and province, and now we both have moved away from there, and we live on the same island, which I didn’t even know until.

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Stephanie Nosco: Yes.

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Nyk Danu Yoga: I read the book.

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Stephanie Nosco: Kind of a weird coincidence, but.

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Nyk Danu Yoga: Very weird.

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Stephanie Nosco: Yeah.

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Nyk Danu Yoga: Very cool. Yeah.

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Stephanie Nosco: Cool.

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Nyk Danu Yoga: So that’s awesome. And I think it’s funny because anyone who’s Canadian listening to this, or maybe anyone who lives in a smaller area, you know whether it’s Scotland or Ireland, or, you know, cause

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Nyk Danu Yoga: I feel like

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Nyk Danu Yoga: being a Canadian. You know the Us. Gets like so much

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Nyk Danu Yoga: more fanfare

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Nyk Danu Yoga: and American authors and teachers and etc. And there’s so many more of them Americans than there are of us that anytime I’m like

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Nyk Danu Yoga: with a fellow Canadian, and we’re talking. I’m just like, Oh, my God! And you’re Canadian like, it’s like this extra excited thing.

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Stephanie Nosco: Yeah.

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Nyk Danu Yoga: And I have a feeling it’s probably the same for someone. If they were in Scotland, because they’re probably used to everyone being from the U. From, you know from England that they’re like, Oh, my God, you know.

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Nyk Danu Yoga: So that’s kind of a a fun history. And I’m very excited to dive into talking about your book in a bit and your work. But

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Nyk Danu Yoga: I know for a fact that Yoga teachers love to hear other Yoga teachers origin stories. So I would love to hear let’s start with, maybe like, how did you find Yoga.

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Stephanie Nosco: Okay, yeah. Story. Time stories are important.

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Stephanie Nosco: Okay. Well, I found Yoga at a very young age.

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Stephanie Nosco: I was

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Stephanie Nosco: a competitive athlete. Believe it or not. I came from a background in track and field and running. So I was, and I think part of the reason why I was drawn to running was because I had so much angst in my youth

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Stephanie Nosco: dealt with Adhd depression and anxiety, and so running was a way, I think, from running from myself. So I really was running competitively, and my coach, one of my running coaches, was like you should do, Yoga.

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Stephanie Nosco: and my mom was doing it at the time. So I was like, Okay, that’s cool.

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Stephanie Nosco: And I remember going to Yoga and

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Stephanie Nosco: feeling something that I

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Stephanie Nosco: hadn’t felt before in my life that I knew was connected with breath.

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Stephanie Nosco: And I. It was young, 1516 years old.

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Stephanie Nosco: and then what happened? I went to university and I kept running. I was running competitively there varsity track and field and cross country.

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Stephanie Nosco: and I ran so hard that my feet broke. I got stress fractures all through my feet.

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Nyk Danu Yoga: Oh! And.

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Stephanie Nosco: My ankles.

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Stephanie Nosco: And so I actually couldn’t run anymore.

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Stephanie Nosco: And this was kind of an identity crisis for me. It was like.

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Stephanie Nosco: Well, who am I, when I stop running from myself.

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Stephanie Nosco: And so I really had to look at, like all of my what I now label as trauma. But all of my, this unconscious material was kind of bubbling up.

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Stephanie Nosco: and I had

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Stephanie Nosco: doctors and psychologists and psychiatrists

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Stephanie Nosco: try and label that as manic depression. And this all these labels were kind of.

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Nyk Danu Yoga: Coming at me.

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Stephanie Nosco: And I was in a low point, like a very low point in my life, and I remembered how I felt

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Stephanie Nosco: in that Yoga class.

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Stephanie Nosco: I was like, there’s some. There’s something there. I think it’s in Yoga.

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Stephanie Nosco: and at the same time. So this was kind of happening. So I started doing more Yoga in my room at university, and at the same time I was taking an intro to religious studies. Course.

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Stephanie Nosco: And I had the most amazing professor

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Stephanie Nosco: who

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Stephanie Nosco: we had a small class. But I remember it wasn’t that small, maybe 50 60 people. And I remember when she walked into the room the very 1st time I met her.

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Stephanie Nosco: she took the time

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Stephanie Nosco: to look at everybody in the eye.

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Nyk Danu Yoga: Oh!

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Stephanie Nosco: And when she looked at me in the eye I was like

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Stephanie Nosco: I felt like seen, and I felt her presence, and there was something like I couldn’t touch it. I couldn’t name it, but I was like.

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Stephanie Nosco: I want that.

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Stephanie Nosco: There’s something there. And I was the same thing that I felt in Yoga. So there was these 2 Poles of the religious studies, and she

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Stephanie Nosco: she was deeply into Buddhism and the and the religions of India. And she talked about Yoga, and I was discovering Yoga as like a pathway back to myself after this running thing.

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Stephanie Nosco: and so I dove right in. I dove into Yoga, and I got my teacher training. At 19 years old I went and I got my 200 h, and because I was living I did my university, I took my university at

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Stephanie Nosco: St. Francis Xavier, in Nova Scotia. It was a small little town, and they had no other Yoga teachers

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Stephanie Nosco: like literally, I think there was like one other Yoga teacher at the time, and so right away I started teaching like 5 classes a week, and I had no idea what I was doing, you know. 200 h

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Stephanie Nosco: And then I went to India, and I

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Stephanie Nosco: studied more. Yoga traveled around India.

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Stephanie Nosco: and I found yin.

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Stephanie Nosco: So that’s when I found yin yoga.

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Nyk Danu Yoga: India.

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Stephanie Nosco: In India. It was so random I was.

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Nyk Danu Yoga: That is so random.

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Stephanie Nosco: Okay, I’m

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Stephanie Nosco: Ashram studying Kundalini. Yoga. I was doing Kundalini Yoga Hata Yoga. And

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Stephanie Nosco: there was a a guy there who was visiting. He wasn’t even a teacher at the Ashram. He wasn’t even a Yogi or whatever. And I guess he just taught a guest class, and he’s like we’re going to do this thing called yin.

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Stephanie Nosco: and I’m like, Whoa, okay?

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Stephanie Nosco: And he had us in like Pasha Motanasana, like snail pose, or whatever or not. Snail caterpillar

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Stephanie Nosco: for like 6 min or 7 min, and I was like

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Stephanie Nosco: again. It was one of those things that I really had to stop running from myself, like, even with the yoga right. I was doing Vinyasa Yoga! I was doing.

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Nyk Danu Yoga: Yep.

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Stephanie Nosco: Yoga. I was doing Kundalini Yoga. It was very.

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Nyk Danu Yoga: Very different.

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Stephanie Nosco: Was, I was still that momentum of like running from myself. But yin was like stop now, though, and like

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Stephanie Nosco: look and feel and.

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Nyk Danu Yoga: Dumping.

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Stephanie Nosco: In me was like, there’s something here that I need to explore more deeply.

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Stephanie Nosco: So when I returned from India I signed up for Bernie Clark’s training, which is.

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Nyk Danu Yoga: Something.

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Stephanie Nosco: Hoover, as you know.

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Stephanie Nosco: and I did his training, and then I found Sarah Powers.

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Stephanie Nosco: And

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Stephanie Nosco: I did every training that Sarah offered. I followed her around the world.

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Stephanie Nosco: And I also kind of

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Stephanie Nosco: rekindled my interest for Buddha Dharma. So I.

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Nyk Danu Yoga: Also started doing.

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Stephanie Nosco: Long, silent retreats. So I did long, silent retreats. I was studying yin I was teaching yin, and

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Stephanie Nosco: and that’s kind of how I got into yoga, if that’s.

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Nyk Danu Yoga: That’s very cool.

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Stephanie Nosco: Long roundabout answer, but.

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Nyk Danu Yoga: Yeah, no, I had a very similar feeling, the very 1st yoga class that I ever took.

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Nyk Danu Yoga: and I I hadn’t made the connection that it was to breath. All I knew is that

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Nyk Danu Yoga: for that 90 min I wasn’t anxious.

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Nyk Danu Yoga: and I was. And then when I left, I was just like

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Nyk Danu Yoga: I’m gonna do yoga forever.

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Stephanie Nosco: Never.

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Nyk Danu Yoga: Yeah. Yeah. And I was totally bullied in. I had 0 interest in going. I just went because my friends wanted to do this beginner, Yoga course, and I was like rolling my eyes the whole time, and

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Nyk Danu Yoga: and I was the only one that it stuck. It’s like they were like.

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Stephanie Nosco: Bunny.

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Nyk Danu Yoga: Yay, 6 weeks. That was fun. Let’s do a cooking class, and I was like no yoga forever, you know. So that is very cool. That you would be in India.

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Nyk Danu Yoga: This is where it’s like, you know, the woo woo part of me is like, Hmm, fate that you happen to suddenly come across like

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Nyk Danu Yoga: a in Yoga class in.

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Stephanie Nosco: I know in India. And then it was I was traveling around India, and what would I do like? I didn’t practice really what I learned at that, Ashram. I was practicing yin in my room like I was just like.

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Stephanie Nosco: and and when I got home, same it was like, and so that’s yeah, it. It really had a big impact on me. It was the stopping and the slowing down, and maybe even the permission to do that. Yeah,

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Stephanie Nosco: yeah, yeah.

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Nyk Danu Yoga: I liked that you mentioned sort of that

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Nyk Danu Yoga: discomfort as well, of

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Nyk Danu Yoga: of having to slow down and like not being able to outrun. You know the thoughts, the feelings, the whatever’s going on, but that it’s like, No, you’re gonna sit your butt here, and you’re gonna just notice

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Nyk Danu Yoga: all this stuff that comes up.

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Stephanie Nosco: But aside from that, we’re not. We’re not applying needles. So to me. When I read Ted Kepchuk’s, you know the web that has a weaver. And there was a few other Chinese medicine books that Sarah referenced. It was like, this isn’t relevant to me.

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Stephanie Nosco: Here’s what’s wrong with me, and here’s what you do to fix it. It was always like, well, how can we preserve the life force, meaning boost the Chi

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Nyk Danu Yoga: How can we bring you into a state of harmony.

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Stephanie Nosco: The Chinese Government came in and wanted to separate Taoism and the spiritual side of Qigong into medical and how to, you know, in some ways sanitize it, and also justify its medical relevance and say, Okay, now, this is the disease that you have. Here’s some exercises to do that are very prescriptive

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Nyk Danu Yoga: You know. So what was Chinese medicine, which was very, I mean, China is a huge country, too, so each region would have had their own kind of special sauce that they were doing right, based on where they lived, in the climate, there. And those people. And you know what, when it got mollified. Basically, they just.

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Nyk Danu Yoga: The center of it. Kind of was like, this is traditional Chinese medicine, and this is what we will export. And so so much of it has been left behind.

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Stephanie Nosco: the purity from the ancient times, right? But then it’s also like, well, we don’t live in the ancient times, either. We have different problems, and so.

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Stephanie Nosco: Whole. Lately it’s been for me like what what is really relevant as yen teachers and as as people who are teaching

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Nyk Danu Yoga: because I’ve always said that the learnings and the teachings that I that I have in Chinese medicine were Tcm. Because the college that I studied at was largely Tcm. Although there was definitely other more just kind of Chinese medicine and 5 element courses like we did have a whole, you know, 5 element section.

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Nyk Danu Yoga: which was a kind of a different way of seeing things. And that’s actually, when I really fell in love with Chinese medicine, I love the Tcm stuff. I found it fascinating. Yin Yang theory to me made sense right away. I was just like, well, of course, this is brilliant, you know. And so a lot of it made sense.

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Nyk Danu Yoga: didn’t hit me till I took the 5 element course, and then I was like, Oh, my God! My heart is singing like this is so beautiful! And I’ve recently been because, even though I’m not a Chinese medicine practitioner. At this point, I am always listening to Tcm podcasts or Chinese medicine podcasts and like reading things. And like, I’m just, you know.

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Nyk Danu Yoga: that was been kind of mollified and taught in our schools so that you can get a license so that you can put needles in people versus this kind of far bigger picture older system

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Nyk Danu Yoga: as soon as you need to codify things and license things. It just feels like a lot of the magic

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Nyk Danu Yoga: to help the person in front of them, because they have these sort of rigid structures that they have to follow. Now.

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Nyk Danu Yoga: So you started practicing Qigong.

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Stephanie Nosco: Started practicing. Qigong, yeah, I started practicing.

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Nyk Danu Yoga: And did you? Where did you find a teacher? Did you just kind of on the interwebs.

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Stephanie Nosco: Well.

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Stephanie Nosco: well, it was Carly who told me about Noel who teaches medical Qigong. And so this is actually one thing I want to say about Qigong, so that

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Stephanie Nosco: just to clarify because a lot of people don’t realize that. You know we have. There’s kind of 2 branches of medical Qigong. There’s the external qigong, and then there’s the internals. So the internal meaning I’m doing qigong exercises to move the Qi myself.

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Stephanie Nosco: That can be an external form, like those flowing movements that you see people do in the park. That’s an external Weigong form. And then the internal nedong which is the in how we’re moving the Qi internally with meditation practices. Both can be happening at the same time. So those are all internal forms. And then the external is like, now I’m going to give a Qigong treatment on the table. A lot of people don’t know that this even exists, but it’s kind of like Reiki.

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Nyk Danu Yoga: And that’s what I had experienced only once, and had my mind completely blown. It’s like I was.

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Stephanie Nosco: Really, powerful, yeah.

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Nyk Danu Yoga: So much, so powerful it was. It was more powerful than any acupuncture treatment I’ve ever had.

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Stephanie Nosco: Yes, and what I love about the program that Noel and my teacher, Wendy Run, is.

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Nyk Danu Yoga: Mind and spirit.

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Stephanie Nosco: And you know it is the external treatment that you get. But it’s also okay. Now, based on what I know about this person, on all these levels, physical, emotional, and spiritual. What kind of internal practices can I give them.

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Stephanie Nosco: And so I took their. You know, Wendy’s full program the 4 years. And now I’m on this other quest of really realizing that my dao is about empowering people to learn the internals.

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Stephanie Nosco: because I’m a yogi. That’s how I began, is like I that sitting with myself, stop running from myself and look inside of how I can impact my Chi on a daily basis.

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Nyk Danu Yoga: Great.

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Stephanie Nosco: Like what I wrote in my book is, yes, Qigong is getting a treatment and practicing your forms. But then, what are you doing for the other 23 h in your day.

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Nyk Danu Yoga: Exactly.

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Stephanie Nosco: That is going to impact your Chi more than anything. It’s the little tiny habits.

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Stephanie Nosco: So

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Stephanie Nosco: I started practicing. Qigong and I started leading retreats and offering Qigong on retreats, and people were having freaking breakdowns.

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Stephanie Nosco: and I realized I am not prepared to guide people into their Psyche like this. And so I took my master’s in counseling.

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Nyk Danu Yoga: Good for you.

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Stephanie Nosco: Which was also like a really good experience. I thought that I was. Gonna you know, I’m going to be a psychotherapist and have a practice which I do. You know, I do see clients one to one, but I keep coming back to that. My Dao is really about teaching and inspiring people through my own practice and presence, through writing and through teaching empowering people to do their own work.

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Nyk Danu Yoga: when you’re working one on one with somebody. Yes, you are, you know, doing your your part as the practitioner with the touching and the all of the things.

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Nyk Danu Yoga: But that then you’re sending them home with these other practices. It’s very similar to

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Nyk Danu Yoga: when I made the the movement from being a Yoga

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Nyk Danu Yoga: That was this. That was the one of the big things. When you work with people privately. If you’re a Yoga teacher and you’re not working with people therapeutically. And you’re doing a private session. You could just take any class plan you have out of your book, and you’re just teaching it one on one. It’s not custom. It’s not based on that person’s needs. But as soon as you start to become

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Nyk Danu Yoga: interested in these therapeutic aspects, or, you know, become a Yoga therapist. Now you’re doing a full assessment. You know all of these things with the person and everything that you’re giving them is based on their own needs.

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Nyk Danu Yoga: and you are sending them home with homework. You know. i 1 of my, a yoga therapist friend, often says like, if you’re doing yoga therapy right? You’re trying to work yourself out of a job.

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Stephanie Nosco: Yes.

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Nyk Danu Yoga: Like you’re you’re trying to give them the tools

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Nyk Danu Yoga: now, not to say that this this hands-on medical Qigong isn’t

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Nyk Danu Yoga: crazy powerful because it is but that that’s only that hour that they see you and like you said, then they leave, and if they just go back out into the world, and they haven’t.

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Nyk Danu Yoga: and they haven’t taken any of these lessons into their body or into their lifestyle. Then it’s gonna be kind of like one step forward, 2 steps back the whole time.

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Stephanie Nosco: You can’t ground the change.

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Stephanie Nosco: Right, and that’s 1 of the things that I struggled with. Going to. Acupuncture is, I love getting needles, but you know they put all these needles in. They leave you in a dark room, and then they take them out and you leave, and it’s like.

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Stephanie Nosco: but can you give like, what, what, what points are you needling.

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Nyk Danu Yoga: Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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Stephanie Nosco: Find in my pulse.

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Stephanie Nosco: I want to know the why, and that’s that’s just me, and I know. But I do know that there’s other people that are interested in their health, and they’re interested.

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Nyk Danu Yoga: Yes.

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Stephanie Nosco: The why. And I’m so. I’m deeply interested in the why and when I share about you know the emotions and the organs. It’s

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Stephanie Nosco: people are interested in their bodies. They want to know what’s happening in there.

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Nyk Danu Yoga: It’s funny when you said that, because I’m the same way, I’ll actually be

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Nyk Danu Yoga: getting needled trying to balance the relax and just enjoy this treatment with said stomach 36. You just did, you know? Like, it’s a yeah, it’s hard.

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Stephanie Nosco: That makes sense. Yeah.

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Nyk Danu Yoga: Yeah, totally. Yeah. It’s like, Oh, Hago, good old Hago again, you know.

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Nyk Danu Yoga: so yeah, I totally get that and I also have students that I know

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Nyk Danu Yoga: aren’t even remotely interested in that.

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Stephanie Nosco: Right.

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Nyk Danu Yoga: You know, like I have students that will come to my classes, and they are more than happy to come to 3 classes a week.

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Nyk Danu Yoga: And that’s their yoga. They don’t practice it at home initially, although it does start to sneak its way in. You know, when they’re

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Nyk Danu Yoga: about to blow up with their partner about who did the dishes. They remember that breath technique that I taught them, or you know. So it does filter in slowly, but not everybody has the desire or the time

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Nyk Danu Yoga: to kind of have like this full practice that I wish everybody would. Do. You know where it’s like, carve out an hour. Roll out your mat, light some incense, let’s you know. Let’s spend this hour with yourself, you know.

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Stephanie Nosco: And this is actually one of the things that I started

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Stephanie Nosco: realizing when I started dripping Qigong slowly into my teaching

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Stephanie Nosco: was that it was so accessible.

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Stephanie Nosco: You don’t need a mat. You don’t need clothes.

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Stephanie Nosco: You don’t actually need that much time. It’s like you can do a single.

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Nyk Danu Yoga: Thanks.

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Stephanie Nosco: Portable. You can literally do like 15 min, less than 15 min, 8 min, and you can experience a pretty powerful shift. So that was really cool and and

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Stephanie Nosco: and in combination with the psychotherapy that I was doing, it was kind of integrating really nicely.

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Stephanie Nosco: And then I, because I was studying the mind and this

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Stephanie Nosco: psychotherapy as well as Qigong. I was really interested in the spirit dimensions of the organs which maybe we can get into a bit later. So the the whooshing, the 5 elements, and then the Wu Shen, which is the 5 spirit energies I met my teacher, Lori Deschar, which, if you haven’t worked with her before. She’s just

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Stephanie Nosco: freaking. Amazing. She’s a 5 element acupuncturist and a depth psychologist, or she’s not a depth psychologist. But she studied a lot of depth, psychology, and yeah, and she totally

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Stephanie Nosco: opened my mind to another layer of.

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Nyk Danu Yoga: I’ve already put her book on my wish list because you mentioned it. That’s this is how nerdy I am. Those of you on Youtube can see this. So here’s Stephanie’s book. You can already see all the little purple tabbies with notes on them. Some of them are, Oh, my God! Look at this book. Some of them are. Ask her this question. Some of them are read this part out, you know, whatever they happen to be, but I think there was at least 2 books that you mentioned in here that I was like right away. I was like, and I use my Amazon wish list. Not necessarily

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Nyk Danu Yoga: that I’m gonna buy it from Amazon. I usually prefer to try to source it elsewhere, but I use it almost just as like a library list of like.

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Stephanie Nosco: Library.

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Nyk Danu Yoga: To keep track of all the books, because I used to do it in my phone. And then one time my phone crashed and all the books that I’d put in there were gone, and so.

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Stephanie Nosco: Yeah.

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Nyk Danu Yoga: So if I’ve already got her book on my wish list, waiting.

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Stephanie Nosco: But yeah, so she she really taught me how to look at the at the organs. Just another layer.

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Nyk Danu Yoga: I don’t know.

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Stephanie Nosco: Like if we can come back to that example that you gave with the the grief.

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Stephanie Nosco: you know what’s happening to that person’s

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Stephanie Nosco: spirit. Someone in grief is, there’s 2 things happening. Is it? Okay? If I go into an example.

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Nyk Danu Yoga: Totally please do.

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Stephanie Nosco: Yeah. So there’s a couple of things happening. The 1st thing is shock.

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Stephanie Nosco: And so what we know about shock is that the shen which is lives in our heart? It’s like our mind. The Shen is like a little bird. You can see it on the cover of the book. It’s a little bird, and when there’s a trauma like that, like a sudden loss any actually any loss

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Stephanie Nosco: the shin will disassociate from the body, so it’ll it’ll kind of fly up.

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Nyk Danu Yoga: Yeah.

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Stephanie Nosco: And so shock is.

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Stephanie Nosco: It’s 1 of those things that yes.

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Stephanie Nosco: you know, we do want to bring the the Shen back into the body right? Because it’s it’s in a state of disassociation. But why it’s in disassociation is because there’s so much pain in the lungs.

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Stephanie Nosco: and loss is one of those things that needs to be titrated.

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Nyk Danu Yoga: Just like.

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Stephanie Nosco: Go right into the grief. Okay, it’s too much. And that’s why the shen is leaving the body. It kind of is like, I can’t handle this right now.

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Stephanie Nosco: So when I’m working with people with grief, it is about, yes, it’s about supporting the lungs, because the lungs are going to be compromised.

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Stephanie Nosco: but it’s also about slowly inviting the Shen to come back into the heart, but then also giving it permission to leave.

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Stephanie Nosco: And and like, I worked with someone just recently on this, she’s going through a painful separation. I said, No, like, it’s okay to distract yourself.

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Stephanie Nosco: Let your shen, let your mind leave your body, and then come in, and then go, and then come in.

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Stephanie Nosco: And so this is like working with the spirits really helped me to see this and that. It’s not always because you’re working with, you know the lungs and grief. It’s not always like you want to blast. Open your heart, or you don’t actually always want to be in your body. Sometimes you have to leave.

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Nyk Danu Yoga: Yeah, I think that sometimes, again, these things get oversimplified right? They get a little bit of information, and they.

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Stephanie Nosco: Yes.

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Nyk Danu Yoga: That like. Actually, this is a whole system, that all of the organs are working together.

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Stephanie Nosco: Hmm

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Nyk Danu Yoga: And even if you look at just kind of even pop psychology when they talk, I mean she’s she. They usually mentioned the stages of grief. But I’ve always been like that. Makes it sound like it’s a like a lateral.

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Stephanie Nosco: Line.

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Nyk Danu Yoga: It’s not. It’s a circle it’s like.

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Nyk Danu Yoga: and denial is one of them.

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Stephanie Nosco: Denial is one of them.

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Nyk Danu Yoga: You know, it’s like that. I this can’t be happening. I can’t believe that’s when that Shen is just like Nope, I’m out of here, this isn’t happening. This isn’t real. Yeah.

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Stephanie Nosco: And so, but also to work with it. Not being like we don’t actually have to force it back in right away. It’s like it takes a lot of gentleness, and then supporting the other organs right, supporting the kidneys and supporting the lungs. Yes, those things are important, but you have to look at it as a whole system.

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Nyk Danu Yoga: Yeah. And that’s I think you know. So my, my hope is that when when Yoga teachers hear this, that they realize that you know

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Nyk Danu Yoga: You don’t have to pull out your lung meridian knowledge. You can just pull out. I’m a human. I’ve lost something to a knowledge right.

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Stephanie Nosco: Exactly, exactly.

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Nyk Danu Yoga: So you started studying. Did you start with kind of just mostly like the physical shapes of Qigong, and then move into kind of more medical? Or did you do it all together.

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Stephanie Nosco: Wendy and Noelle lead, a

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Stephanie Nosco: kind of a 3 year program, and it was interrupted with Covid.

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Stephanie Nosco: But you begin learning forms. The Taoist. 5

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Stephanie Nosco: set of forms.

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Stephanie Nosco: Concurrently with learning about the physical, energetic, and spiritual aspects of the 5 viscera.

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Stephanie Nosco: the organs.

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Stephanie Nosco: And you’re also learning treatments. And so it kind of all happens at one time.

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Nyk Danu Yoga: Beautiful.

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Stephanie Nosco: And at the same time I was

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Stephanie Nosco: also kind of dabbling in other forms of Qigong with different teachers. There’s a great teacher, Master Helen Liang in Vancouver

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Stephanie Nosco: that I was working with. So I was just kind of pulling from.

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Stephanie Nosco: I guess.

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Stephanie Nosco: different areas. And like looking at this

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Stephanie Nosco: subject of Qigong, the way you would look at a crystal from many angles. And so beautiful, yeah, yeah.

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Nyk Danu Yoga: Yeah.

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Nyk Danu Yoga: I’ve done not a lot, but mostly

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Nyk Danu Yoga: other than that one medical Qigong session. I’ve done mostly sort of the physical shapes of the Qigong and

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Nyk Danu Yoga: I really really love them, because.

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Nyk Danu Yoga: as someone who’s been doing practicing yoga a long time.

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Nyk Danu Yoga: I found that. Well, 1st of all I found when I started doing Qigong in college.

516
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Nyk Danu Yoga: My Qigong teacher kept telling me to shorten my stance.

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Nyk Danu Yoga: because, of course, you know, as Yogis, we’re like

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Nyk Danu Yoga: long warrior strides, and like all these, and he’s like, no, no, no! Like shorter like you’re you’re not. You don’t have stability there, you know, like, bring your legs in, bring your legs in. And that was, that was a big, light bulb to be able to

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Nyk Danu Yoga: to do these practices

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Nyk Danu Yoga: of of Qigong in a way that I was never going to my extreme, ever.

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Nyk Danu Yoga: I was never from the outside. If I was watching myself looking like I was exerting or challenging myself, like I would in a physical Asana practice, especially those that are listening that come from these really strong physical practices. Like Ashtanga and Vinyasa, there was never any of that kind of

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Nyk Danu Yoga: efforting.

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Nyk Danu Yoga: and yet I would get so warm like there was times where I’d be doing it, I’d be like, Oh, and this shirt’s coming off and like, how am I getting so warm when I’ve it’s, you know, to a yogi’s eye I’ve barely moved.

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Stephanie Nosco: Move.

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Nyk Danu Yoga: No.

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Nyk Danu Yoga: Yeah.

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Stephanie Nosco: And I think that’s 1 of the reasons I fell in love with Qigong, and why I also found it so challenging was, it was like, Okay, yin Yoga forced me.

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Stephanie Nosco: Forced me. That’s a harsh way to say it, but encouraged me to stop running.

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Stephanie Nosco: But now Qigong was like, Okay, now, can you move your body without over efforting.

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Stephanie Nosco: like.

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Nyk Danu Yoga: It’s hard to do when you’re used to other practices. Yeah.

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Stephanie Nosco: What my Qigong teacher is always says is, try easier. Where can you try easier and

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Stephanie Nosco: knowing like, when I 1st started practicing a lot of Qigong. The Standing Wuji

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Stephanie Nosco: was so hard for me. I was like shaking. I had to sit in a chair.

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Stephanie Nosco: and I thought like, Why is this hard for me. I’m an athlete.

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Nyk Danu Yoga: Move.

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Stephanie Nosco: Like I come from running background, you know, climbing. I was always very athletic, but to just stand so because my Chi, the Chi, and the bones like my Chi hadn’t built yet, and I hadn’t actually learned how to stack my bones so that I wasn’t over efforting just when I’m standing.

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Stephanie Nosco: It was such a.

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Stephanie Nosco: It was such an embodied

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Stephanie Nosco: Taoist practice, right? And the more I’m doing Qigong even now, like I’ve been reading and rereading different versions of the Tao te Ching, and think your Qigong practice is now you’re embodying the essence of the Tao te Ching right to to try without trying, like, what is that like.

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Nyk Danu Yoga: Yeah.

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Stephanie Nosco: and and the effect being so strong like like you said, like barely moving. And yet you’re breaking a sweat like, how can this even happen.

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Nyk Danu Yoga: And y’all just, you know, little Tmi here. I’m not a sweater.

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Stephanie Nosco: Yeah, me.

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Nyk Danu Yoga: Like. I’m 1 of those people that like I have to be working hard, or it’s gotta be real hot and humid out there for me to get sweaty. So if I’m doing a qigong practice, and I’m like, I’m get Dewey. That’s that’s why it stands out. It’s remarkable, because I’m like what the heck like.

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Nyk Danu Yoga: Have never sweat this much in such a

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Nyk Danu Yoga: gentle practice.

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Stephanie Nosco: Such a gentle practice.

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Stephanie Nosco: Yeah. So I just loved it. I love practicing it, love practicing it outside what I really found. And here I’m going to go into a bit of woo woo stuff here, please do.

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Stephanie Nosco: My life totally changed when I started practicing Qigong on an external level, you know, like

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Stephanie Nosco: who I was with, changed what kind of things I was doing in my life changed things. I would. I don’t want to use the word manifest, but my external life started to change so rapidly. When I started practicing Qigong it was almost as if I now started entering into a conversation

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Stephanie Nosco: with the universe. It was like as my vibration started to shift everything else in my world shifted too.

553
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Stephanie Nosco: Way faster than Yoga, and I don’t really know why.

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Stephanie Nosco: I think that Yoga is still a powerful way to move energy, but maybe it was the subtlety. Maybe it was the

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Stephanie Nosco: the

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Stephanie Nosco: kind of being in direct communication with

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Stephanie Nosco: these kind of more esoteric meditations and movements. I don’t really know how, why it happened.

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Stephanie Nosco: But my life changed rapidly after I started practicing Qigong.

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Stephanie Nosco: and

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Stephanie Nosco: I also started to open my eyes to more unseen realms like my intuition now is so on point to the point where, like my partner thinks I’m a little bit of a witch.

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Stephanie Nosco: There are some things where I’m like I don’t know. It’s people and and people come to me saying, Stephanie, I’m hearing things. I’m seeing things. I get these intuitions. I get these downloads, and I don’t know what’s happening. I’m like, you’re practicing Qigong like it’s it’s a weird. It’s like magic.

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Nyk Danu Yoga: It’s like clearing

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Nyk Danu Yoga: the the crud out of what.

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Stephanie Nosco: Yes.

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Nyk Danu Yoga: These pathways that were already there. Right? So it’s like when you clear these these channels. Then then what was there, as you’re, you know

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Nyk Danu Yoga: innate gift as being born as a human.

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Stephanie Nosco: Right.

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Nyk Danu Yoga: Actually can be used.

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Stephanie Nosco: Yes, and I think that the same can happen in things like Kundalini Yoga for me. Kundalini Yoga was just a bit too destabilizing. But it’s you’re doing the same thing. You’re clearing these main energetic highways that run from this. You know point of a thousand meetings at the Crown of the head all the way down to Hoiyin into the bubbling well, like you’re just more open and receptive energetically to what is in.

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Stephanie Nosco: I guess. Beyond the scene realms is what I want to say, yeah, yeah.

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Nyk Danu Yoga: Yeah.

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Nyk Danu Yoga: yeah.

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Nyk Danu Yoga: let’s talk about

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Nyk Danu Yoga: how you moved from.

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Nyk Danu Yoga: So you went to Yoga. You did your qigong. You got your. You did your. It was 4 years Qigong training.

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Stephanie Nosco: Yeah.

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Nyk Danu Yoga: Yeah.

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Stephanie Nosco: Yeah.

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Nyk Danu Yoga: Yeah. And then I want to hear. Now I want to start to dive into your book. So I want to hear now how? So I don’t even remember

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Nyk Danu Yoga: how I discovered you like. I’m sure it was on Instagram.

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Nyk Danu Yoga: but it couldn’t have just been cause. I don’t ever just sit on Instagram and search through stuff. So it must have been that someone that I know or follow shared your post, or something like that for me to end up

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Nyk Danu Yoga: clicking on it and then following you. And I’ve always really appreciated your. So if you’re you’re not following, or, by the way, y’all you should be

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Nyk Danu Yoga: I’ve always really appreciated your your social media presence and your graphics, and just the information that you share. And but I don’t remember how I found you. I honestly have no idea what the common thread was.

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Nyk Danu Yoga: But it’s been, I mean, I think we’ve been connected on Instagram for years now.

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Nyk Danu Yoga: And so when I saw that you had a book.

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Nyk Danu Yoga: I was very excited because I knew that it would be

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Nyk Danu Yoga: deep

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Nyk Danu Yoga: but accessible.

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Nyk Danu Yoga: And stunning, because that’s exactly how you represent on your social. You’re sharing these deep concepts. But you’re doing it in a way where it’s like, Oh.

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Nyk Danu Yoga: okay, I could try that. It’s not like, what? What did she just say?

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Nyk Danu Yoga: And then the graphics that you have are always just absolutely stunning. So I was. I just had a feeling. And then, when I saw the book, I’m holding it up again for those on Instagram, or who aren’t or sorry are on Youtube.

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Nyk Danu Yoga: even just in your images. I was like, Oh, my gosh! It’s beautiful! And then, when I opened it up and saw all of the color and the illustrations I was like, Oh, my gosh, it’s so beautiful! And then, of course, it’s also got a whole lot of substance. It’s not just pretty to look at, but at the same time it is pretty to look at.

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Stephanie Nosco: Yeah.

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Nyk Danu Yoga: Which I really, I’m a very visual person, and I’m very color orientated.

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Nyk Danu Yoga: Maybe that’s why my previous career I was a hair color expert. So I was a hairstylist, and maybe that’s

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Nyk Danu Yoga: you know, I don’t know. Maybe I had that before I became a hair color expert. And that’s why I became really obsessed with hair color as opposed to just cutting.

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Nyk Danu Yoga: Who knows but color for me is always something that will really draw me in. And this book

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Nyk Danu Yoga: is absolutely stunning.

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Stephanie Nosco: Cool color.

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Nyk Danu Yoga: Yeah. And so I would love to hear

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Nyk Danu Yoga: how this little beauty came about.

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Stephanie Nosco: Yeah, okay,

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Stephanie Nosco: So gosh, where’s how far back should I go?

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Nyk Danu Yoga: You can just do like a bullet bullet point.

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Stephanie Nosco: Sure. Okay. So I guess I I started writing on Instagram, I guess when Covid happened, I just started writing all of these things. All of these threads that I talked about. You know the Qigong, the psychotherapy, the 5 spirits work the Yin Yoga, the Qigong. I just started writing on my Instagram

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Stephanie Nosco: right around when Covid happened.

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Stephanie Nosco: and then I actually ended up losing my 1st Instagram account.

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Stephanie Nosco: I got hacked, and I lost my entire account, which was sad.

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Stephanie Nosco: So gosh, that would have been 2022. I was on a yeah, I was on a self retreat. I knew I wanted to read a book. When I came home after that self retreat my Instagram was gone, and I.

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Nyk Danu Yoga: Oh, I was like.

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Stephanie Nosco: There goes my business like it was really devastating.

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Nyk Danu Yoga: It would be, yeah. And I.

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Stephanie Nosco: Well, maybe I have this counseling degree. Maybe I’ll just be a counselor. And so I was kind of starting up my counseling business, and

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Stephanie Nosco: and so then, my.

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Stephanie Nosco: I think it was my good friend Christine. She’s like, just start again. She’s like, just

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Stephanie Nosco: just make an account with your name, because it used to be nosco yoga. I was like.

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Nyk Danu Yoga: And teachers.

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Stephanie Nosco: She’s like, just make an account with your name

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Stephanie Nosco: start again.

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Stephanie Nosco: So I did. But I had all this content that I’d written, and so I.

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Nyk Danu Yoga: And you still had it somewhere.

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Stephanie Nosco: I still had it, I saved it. Yeah.

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Nyk Danu Yoga: Because that’s my worst fear with that. Oh, and I bet.

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Stephanie Nosco: Touch wet.

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Nyk Danu Yoga: I say this is that I don’t like. I don’t save things really. I mean, I have some graphics and stuff, but like I don’t save my writing, or

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Nyk Danu Yoga: you know anything that’s posted on there. If it was gone it would be gone.

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Stephanie Nosco: Be gone, something to learn, because I did lose everything. I lost my Facebook and everything. So

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Stephanie Nosco: I started again. And it was like really slow. It was like one follower. It’s my mom.

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Stephanie Nosco: you know, you know, it was so hard. But I just posted all this old stuff like quite rapidly, and within a month I had over a hundred 1,000 followers like exploded

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Stephanie Nosco: Yoga. Glow reached out to me. They signed me on. I was like all of a sudden getting all these attention. All this attention from the world, like all of a sudden, people, are really into Qigong. And

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Stephanie Nosco: and what I’m writing like, people want this?

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Stephanie Nosco: Yeah,

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Stephanie Nosco: And so then

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Stephanie Nosco: I did a few other self retreats, one being an ayahuasca dieta, where? Yeah, it was very much a message that you know this book that I’m writing is really for the earth. And it was I wanted it to be rooted in ecology.

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Stephanie Nosco: And then I did a vision fast in 2,000 at the end of 2022

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Stephanie Nosco: with the Animus Valley Institute with Bill Plotkin’s work. He’s amazing if you don’t know who he is.

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Nyk Danu Yoga: Not heard of him.

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Stephanie Nosco: Craft really good. He’s an ecopsychologist. So I did a vision fast with the intention of listening to the earth. That was my thing is, I wanted to to fast, and just listen on the land to what it wanted to say.

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Stephanie Nosco: And I had a prayer. My prayer was, will this fast. Help me write the book.

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Stephanie Nosco: And when I got home after that vision fast.

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Stephanie Nosco: 2 separate publishers had written reached out to me, asking me to write a book proposal.

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Stephanie Nosco: So it was an invitation. It was invitation.

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Nyk Danu Yoga: Which almost never happens. Y’all, for those of you who think.

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Stephanie Nosco: It doesn’t. It’s not, you know.

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Nyk Danu Yoga: Yeah, very rarely does a publisher reach out to somebody and say, Hey, we’d like you to write something for us. Yeah.

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Stephanie Nosco: Yes, and both of them wanted it to be an illustrated book, both of them.

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Stephanie Nosco: which was weird. It was like.

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Stephanie Nosco: you know, that’s more expensive to write an illustrated book. And anyway, so that’s how it kind of came to be. And

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Stephanie Nosco: I I knew that I wanted to write on the psycho emotional aspects of the organs, and I knew I wanted it to be for the earth.

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Stephanie Nosco: And so yeah, it kind of took shape.

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Stephanie Nosco: Over the course of about a year.

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Stephanie Nosco: and just sitting in nature, and

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Stephanie Nosco: of course, really inspired by many different teachers and authors. And

654
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Stephanie Nosco: there it was.

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Nyk Danu Yoga: And were you pretty on the Dl. That you were writing a book? Because I don’t remember you saying I’m working on a book. It was just all of a sudden, like you’re sharing your material. And then all of a sudden, on Instagram Bam, here’s my published book. I was like what.

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Stephanie Nosco: Yeah.

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Nyk Danu Yoga: Yeah.

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Stephanie Nosco: Mentioned it, but I wasn’t overly public about it. Yeah, I wasn’t overly public about it. So

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Stephanie Nosco: yeah, when it.

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Nyk Danu Yoga: I think sometimes people are public about these things because they want the accountability.

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Stephanie Nosco: Yeah.

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Nyk Danu Yoga: But it sounded like you obviously didn’t need that. Like, some people are like, I’m writing a book. They keep saying it so that people are like, Hey, how’s that book you’re writing, you know, so that they they kind of have to like

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Nyk Danu Yoga: put their stake in the ground and say, I’m doing this thing. But you obviously did not need that.

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Stephanie Nosco: Well.

665
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Stephanie Nosco: I really do feel like this book wanted to come through. And

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Stephanie Nosco: one thing that my teacher, Lori said is like no one. No one is going to write the book that you’re meant to write, and.

667
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Nyk Danu Yoga: 100%.

668
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Stephanie Nosco: Think that everybody has a book in them, and it’s just a matter of

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Stephanie Nosco: sitting down and doing it.

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Nyk Danu Yoga: Yeah.

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Stephanie Nosco: Honestly and and for me, having the accountability of a publisher and deadlines that really helped.

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Nyk Danu Yoga: Yes.

673
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Stephanie Nosco: And and

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Stephanie Nosco: and

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Stephanie Nosco: it’s kind of funny how the book is called Follow your Dao, because

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Stephanie Nosco: in writing this book I think I really found my own voice. It’s

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Stephanie Nosco: oftentimes. And this is actually a good message for Yoga teachers, too. Oftentimes we take a course, or we listen to a, podcast and we want to replicate in some way what.

678
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Stephanie Nosco: What another person is saying, because it’s like, oh, they said it so it’s valid.

679
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Stephanie Nosco: But the book really challenged me to find my own voice, and

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Stephanie Nosco: there’s a level of vulnerability, I think, in that. And I will say that writing this book was

681
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Stephanie Nosco: was one of the more vulnerable things I’ve ever done in my life so.

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Nyk Danu Yoga: I think every author would probably agree. Yeah.

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Nyk Danu Yoga: on that note. I have some questions and some and some thoughts. If you don’t mind.

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Stephanie Nosco: Sure. Yeah, of course.

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Nyk Danu Yoga: I know you talk in the beginning of the book about how

686
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Nyk Danu Yoga: a lot of a lot of this book is based directly on what you’ve learned from your teachers, but that there also is a little bit of your own

687
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Nyk Danu Yoga: interpretation, your own spirit in it, which, of course, there has to be, especially with something as ancient as Chinese medicine, where we don’t have all the answers. So there’s a couple of things that stood out to me.

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Nyk Danu Yoga: just because I’m a nerd. Yes.

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Stephanie Nosco: Please.

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Nyk Danu Yoga: Somebody else may not have may not have noticed.

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Stephanie Nosco: Noticed.

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Nyk Danu Yoga: I noticed that you didn’t mention the pericardium and the sanjao.

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Nyk Danu Yoga: and I’m wondering why that might be.

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Stephanie Nosco: Oh.

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Nyk Danu Yoga: Were you trying to keep it? More sort of

696
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Nyk Danu Yoga: concrete organ, based as opposed to these more kind of vague

697
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Nyk Danu Yoga: concepts.

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Stephanie Nosco: So this is the thing about writing a book.

699
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Stephanie Nosco: You only get a certain amount of pages.

700
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Stephanie Nosco: I wrote 90,000 words.

701
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Nyk Danu Yoga: This book is on.

702
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Stephanie Nosco: This book is only 55,000.

703
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Stephanie Nosco: So what I will say is the pericardium and the sanjao didn’t make the cut.

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Nyk Danu Yoga: I gotcha.

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Stephanie Nosco: So that’s for the next book. I have already a second book idea. I think that the heart.

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Stephanie Nosco: because the heart is where the spirit resides.

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Nyk Danu Yoga: Yeah.

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Stephanie Nosco: Where actually all of them reside, is in the heart. The heart could be its own book.

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Nyk Danu Yoga: 100%.

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Stephanie Nosco: So that’s simply it. It’s just it didn’t make the cut. I think that there is a little tiny bit on the sanjao and the pericardium in the section on boundaries.

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Nyk Danu Yoga: Yeah, you do cut. You mentioned them.

712
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Stephanie Nosco: Varied.

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Nyk Danu Yoga: Kind of wink wink towards them. Yeah, yeah, which was.

714
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Stephanie Nosco: But I was like.

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Nyk Danu Yoga: Yeah, they are.

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Stephanie Nosco: Exactly, but I didn’t include them in the chapters, because I did want the book to

717
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Stephanie Nosco: to follow the elements and the spirits. And so, because the San Jo and the Triple Wormer are really in support of

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Stephanie Nosco: the spirit of the Shen, I felt that it didn’t deserve its own chapter. Does that make sense.

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Nyk Danu Yoga: Totally yeah.

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Nyk Danu Yoga: And then the other thing that stood out to me

721
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Nyk Danu Yoga: is that you mentioned when you’re in the lungs.

722
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Nyk Danu Yoga: You mentioned the lung as an as a

723
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Nyk Danu Yoga: a lower spirit. I think.

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Stephanie Nosco: Yeah, yeah.

725
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Nyk Danu Yoga: And I was like

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Nyk Danu Yoga: I’ve never, ever thought of the lungs as I’ve always thought of them as an upper.

727
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Stephanie Nosco: Right.

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Nyk Danu Yoga: That was intriguing.

729
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Stephanie Nosco: They live in the they live in the, you know this upper jowl.

730
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Nyk Danu Yoga: Upper. Chow, yeah.

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Stephanie Nosco: Yeah, but the the lungs themselves, and the Po soul belongs to the underworld. It’s an it’s an

732
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Stephanie Nosco: it’s a it’s the spirit of the body right? So we have the 2 spirits

733
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Stephanie Nosco: that are the upper spirits, the Shen being the most young. So if you think of fire being very young.

734
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Stephanie Nosco: It’s very flighty. It’s the light of our awareness. Then that comes down and kind of becomes a bit more dense into the Hun, which is about dreaming. So then it’s going to take that insight and the awareness, and like piece it together into into dreams and plans.

735
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Nyk Danu Yoga: And then you go.

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Stephanie Nosco: Down into earth and earth is about. Okay. Well, now, what are you going to do about it? What are those little things like where rubber meets the road.

737
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Stephanie Nosco: and now the lungs. When you go down into the lungs, the lungs represent, like

738
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Stephanie Nosco: our

739
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Stephanie Nosco: bodies, and personal, unconscious

740
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Stephanie Nosco: habit patterns.

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Nyk Danu Yoga: Gotcha.

742
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Stephanie Nosco: Then the alarm goes off to do your meditation, or to write your book, or whatever you’re doing, and the pose like. Oh, I don’t know if I can.

743
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Stephanie Nosco: This is where the demons live.

744
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Nyk Danu Yoga: Is actually.

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Stephanie Nosco: In the lungs. Yeah, and not in the lungs as in the physical lung, but in the spirit of the lung. And we have to remember, too, the lung is in the Soma. The lung is represented in the whole soma, and the skin.

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Nyk Danu Yoga: Yeah.

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Stephanie Nosco: So. So yeah, it’s a lower spirit. And then the zhe is the very bottom of the deep, unconscious. It’s the collective, unconscious, and the knowing in our bones.

748
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Nyk Danu Yoga: Interesting.

749
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Stephanie Nosco: Hmm.

750
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Nyk Danu Yoga: It was this part here that I just wanted to read

751
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Nyk Danu Yoga: about the shen

752
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Nyk Danu Yoga: and the bird.

753
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Stephanie Nosco: Yeah.

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Nyk Danu Yoga: I don’t want to read the whole passage, though, because

755
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Nyk Danu Yoga: that would be long.

756
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Nyk Danu Yoga: this part

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Nyk Danu Yoga: like the little red bird, the Shen is able to intermittently venture out and return.

758
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Nyk Danu Yoga: creating a balanced rhythm of connection and retreat.

759
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Nyk Danu Yoga: Through this dynamic the heart is able to express itself authentically, seek meaningful connections and at the same time maintain its autonomy. It’s a beautiful metaphor for the dance that the heart performs.

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Nyk Danu Yoga: seeking both connection and retreat.

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Nyk Danu Yoga: I love that. And I’ll tell you why. Because often when you hear about and and this will be a podcast for a whole, other episode, some other time. But when you hear about you know each of us have all 5 of the spirits in us, but that some people tend to be more fire. Some people tend to be more wood, and whenever you hear about fire people.

762
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Nyk Danu Yoga: Oftentimes there’s this idea of fire. People are like the forever extrovert. They’re like, always want to be around people. They always, you know, kind of need that

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Nyk Danu Yoga: that kind of like when they’re. I’ve even read one book where they were like. When fire people are alone, they don’t have joy. So I loved this reference that you made here about

764
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Nyk Danu Yoga: this ability

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Nyk Danu Yoga: to be able to do connection and retreat.

766
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Stephanie Nosco: Treat.

767
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Nyk Danu Yoga: And this is what I’m always trying to teach my students that are

768
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Nyk Danu Yoga: the summer bunnies. You know the ones that just live all year for summer, and they go to every festival, and they do all the things. And la, la! It’s like, Whoa! Whoa! Whoa, yeah.

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Nyk Danu Yoga: But you you can burn yourself out here, little flame like we need to also pull in and have quiet time. So I just thought that was

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Nyk Danu Yoga: a beautiful way to put it.

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Stephanie Nosco: – love.

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Nyk Danu Yoga: That.

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Stephanie Nosco: Yeah. Because if there’s no retreat also, as then, we’re we’re a bit confused about what our truth is versus another’s right, that like seeking external validation.

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Stephanie Nosco: Yeah.

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Stephanie Nosco: yeah, it definitely is that balance between out and in.

776
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Nyk Danu Yoga: Yeah. The only way that you can know if it’s your own

777
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Nyk Danu Yoga: sovereign heart speaking is, if you actually spend time

778
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Nyk Danu Yoga: quietly with your own sovereign heart. Yeah.

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Nyk Danu Yoga: Wish I would. I mean, my wish for the world. Is that more people

780
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Nyk Danu Yoga: do that?

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Nyk Danu Yoga: Because I think there’s so much of people. Just adopting what everybody else is saying and thinking, and you know not.

782
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Stephanie Nosco: Yeah, and that’s.

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Nyk Danu Yoga: Does this resonate for me.

784
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Stephanie Nosco: Exactly. And it’s, you know, because that’s what the Shen wants to do. It wants to reach out to connect

785
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Stephanie Nosco: but

786
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Stephanie Nosco: what I’ve been sitting with is when we can maintain our autonomy

787
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Stephanie Nosco: that actually leads to more authentic connection.

788
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Nyk Danu Yoga: Because.

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Stephanie Nosco: There’s a difference between me and you. If I was you and you were me, then there would be nothing to connect.

790
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Nyk Danu Yoga: And authentic connection, as opposed to just.

791
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Stephanie Nosco: Exactly.

792
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Nyk Danu Yoga: Showing up in body

793
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Nyk Danu Yoga: and not in in spirit.

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Nyk Danu Yoga: Yeah, beautiful.

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Nyk Danu Yoga: A couple of other things that I noticed that were just different from what I have

796
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Nyk Danu Yoga: have learned is that

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Nyk Danu Yoga: did you put courage with the lung? You did right.

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Nyk Danu Yoga: And I’ve always learned it as the gallbladder.

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Stephanie Nosco: It can be both. Yeah, I think that’s.

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Nyk Danu Yoga: But when you’re talking about this deeper aspect of the lung, it makes a lot of sense to me like, because at first, st when I saw it. I was like, Oh, that’s interesting. But then, when I read the chapter, it was like, Okay, I see what you mean by

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Nyk Danu Yoga: the sort of depth

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Nyk Danu Yoga: of the lungs and the sort of shadow. And the yeah.

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Stephanie Nosco: And being willing to face. Yeah, being willing to face shadow, being willing also to put everything on the line to stand up for what you believe in, and what you value.

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Nyk Danu Yoga: It’s more of like that inner resolve and courage, whereas I feel like sometimes gallbladder is more of that like charge, kind of courage.

805
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Stephanie Nosco: Goes to that? Yeah.

806
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Nyk Danu Yoga: Yeah, yeah.

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Stephanie Nosco: Yeah, I’m gonna have the courage to follow my dreams.

808
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Nyk Danu Yoga: Yes.

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Stephanie Nosco: Would be more liver versus I’m going to have the courage to dig into the unconscious of my past, so that I can act out of greatest integrity.

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Nyk Danu Yoga: That’s be long.

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Stephanie Nosco: That. Yeah.

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Nyk Danu Yoga: Sense.

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Stephanie Nosco: And a lot of these, you see, as both like, you know, there’s somebody said, Oh, what’s the difference between the compassion of the liver, and the sympathy of the spleen.

814
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Nyk Danu Yoga: Hmm good question.

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Stephanie Nosco: And then somebody said, Well, what’s the difference? Like I put? I think I put love once underneath the liver, and people was like, well, where’s in that heart?

816
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Stephanie Nosco: And then I realized, I’m like, love can actually be expressed through all of the organisms.

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Nyk Danu Yoga: Yes.

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Stephanie Nosco: Right. Like to be safe would be like the wish of the kidneys, and to be

819
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Stephanie Nosco: to to be free from harm would be that the wish of the liver, and to be nourished would be that of the spleen.

820
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Nyk Danu Yoga: Yeah.

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Stephanie Nosco: To live in integrity. Right? So they all have virtue, and they’re.

822
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Nyk Danu Yoga: It’s almost like each organ has its own love language.

823
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Stephanie Nosco: Yes, exactly. I love that.

824
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Nyk Danu Yoga: Yeah.

825
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Stephanie Nosco: Each organ has its own level. But you do see crossover, and there is like obviously room for poetic interpretation in all of it.

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Nyk Danu Yoga: This is this other part that I wanted to read because I was just like

827
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Nyk Danu Yoga: I mean, you couldn’t see it because you weren’t with me, but I was like shouting from the rooftops as I read this.

828
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Nyk Danu Yoga: This is from fear to faith, it’s

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Nyk Danu Yoga: Lastly, one of the fastest ways to deplete your jing is by striving to be someone you are not.

830
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Stephanie Nosco: Hmm.

831
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Nyk Danu Yoga: This could show up in trying to change your core personality traits to fit into a certain relationship or career or doing activities that air quotes should be healthy.

832
01:10:46.500 –> 01:10:49.550
Nyk Danu Yoga: but that you just really don’t have an affinity, for

833
01:10:49.810 –> 01:10:54.849
Nyk Danu Yoga: if you don’t love yourself, you might feel like you have to take up another expression.

834
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Nyk Danu Yoga: but the consequence.

835
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Nyk Danu Yoga: the extra energy needed will drain your life force in the same way that overwork will.

836
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Stephanie Nosco: Hmm.

837
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Nyk Danu Yoga: I was like, can we just put that on a billboard, please?

838
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Nyk Danu Yoga: So that one, I just yeah, really, really, really stood out because I work so much with Yoga teachers.

839
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Nyk Danu Yoga: both in training them again, but also in business mentorship. And I see this come up so often.

840
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Nyk Danu Yoga: and I understand that when you’re a brand new teacher.

841
01:11:26.050 –> 01:11:28.860
Nyk Danu Yoga: maybe you’re new, and so you are kind of like

842
01:11:29.850 –> 01:11:32.879
Nyk Danu Yoga: parroting what your teachers have said, you know.

843
01:11:33.190 –> 01:11:34.620
Nyk Danu Yoga: But at a point

844
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Nyk Danu Yoga: you have to start to speak from from your own essence, your own essence, your own

845
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Nyk Danu Yoga: experience. I remember one of my teachers

846
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Nyk Danu Yoga: told me this at my very 1st teacher training, and it’s the thing they say at the beginning of every teacher training, that I do

847
01:11:50.290 –> 01:11:52.980
Nyk Danu Yoga: some of the things that I say here.

848
01:11:53.510 –> 01:11:57.259
Nyk Danu Yoga: Well, I don’t like to use the word trigger, because I feel it’s so overused right now.

849
01:11:57.410 –> 01:11:59.939
Nyk Danu Yoga: you know, may push a button. Let’s put it that way.

850
01:12:00.549 –> 01:12:02.229
Nyk Danu Yoga: In this course.

851
01:12:02.450 –> 01:12:06.269
Nyk Danu Yoga: and when it does, pause and investigate that.

852
01:12:06.520 –> 01:12:13.380
Nyk Danu Yoga: so before you push it away? No, no, no, that’s not right, because it doesn’t fit with what I believed before I walked in this room.

853
01:12:14.150 –> 01:12:15.690
Nyk Danu Yoga: but also

854
01:12:17.110 –> 01:12:22.989
Nyk Danu Yoga: you know, don’t automatically accept what I say, because it might not be your truth. So she always said, Question it.

855
01:12:23.340 –> 01:12:27.790
Nyk Danu Yoga: Does this feel true if I get still and quiet with myself.

856
01:12:28.020 –> 01:12:31.749
Nyk Danu Yoga: even though this thing kind of went, push my button or tweaked me.

857
01:12:32.390 –> 01:12:33.870
Nyk Danu Yoga: Does it feel true?

858
01:12:34.280 –> 01:12:37.750
Nyk Danu Yoga: Is there a truth there? And if so.

859
01:12:37.880 –> 01:12:39.740
Nyk Danu Yoga: now you get to go investigate that?

860
01:12:39.770 –> 01:12:44.840
Nyk Danu Yoga: And why did that poke that button. Then, if this is true, if it doesn’t, she said.

861
01:12:45.370 –> 01:12:47.889
Nyk Danu Yoga: get rid of it, it’s not yours. It’s not for you.

862
01:12:49.120 –> 01:12:54.670
Nyk Danu Yoga: And so I think that that quote really kind of hit that nail for me. I was like, Wow.

863
01:12:54.900 –> 01:13:07.019
Nyk Danu Yoga: yeah. So I would love that to be something that all teachers do. You know I often joke with my I did it just this last weekend when I was with my teacher trainings, I said. You know there’s no right or wrong way to sequence in.

864
01:13:07.150 –> 01:13:09.129
Nyk Danu Yoga: However, for your next assignment

865
01:13:09.520 –> 01:13:24.689
Nyk Danu Yoga: there is a right or wrong way, and then what you do when you’re out of this program, just party on with yourself. As long as you’re being conscious and intentional and thoughtful about it, you know as long as you’re taking that time to pause and to listen before you. You know.

866
01:13:26.420 –> 01:13:31.330
Nyk Danu Yoga: yeah, it it I mean, we. We’re in such a world right now in general, of people not

867
01:13:31.910 –> 01:13:32.920
Nyk Danu Yoga: being

868
01:13:33.060 –> 01:13:34.220
Nyk Danu Yoga: authentic.

869
01:13:34.587 –> 01:13:42.112
Nyk Danu Yoga: I mean the fear of cancel culture alone for people is, I mean, people are so afraid to speak their truth right now.

870
01:13:42.440 –> 01:13:42.920
Stephanie Nosco: Yes, and.

871
01:13:42.920 –> 01:13:44.730
Nyk Danu Yoga: And understandably. Yes.

872
01:13:44.730 –> 01:13:46.869
Stephanie Nosco: And I think it’s hard to hear the truth.

873
01:13:46.920 –> 01:14:00.579
Stephanie Nosco: because the Shen is going out. The Shen is going out to find it somewhere else. Yes, so yes, we want to listen. And you bring up such a good point. You know it’s like the point of a teacher is to disrupt your current worldview.

874
01:14:00.840 –> 01:14:01.549
Nyk Danu Yoga: 100%.

875
01:14:01.550 –> 01:14:05.889
Stephanie Nosco: And to shake it up in there. But then, at the end of the day you have to listen.

876
01:14:05.950 –> 01:14:13.630
Stephanie Nosco: and that that what I just said earlier about how do we know what the masters taught is correct? Right? If all of this is.

877
01:14:13.880 –> 01:14:18.690
Stephanie Nosco: you know, hearsay from history books, which was, by the way, written by him.

878
01:14:18.750 –> 01:14:23.810
Stephanie Nosco: Right? A lot of this is from the patriarchy. So it’s like, we’re sifting through all of these teachings.

879
01:14:23.890 –> 01:14:35.779
Stephanie Nosco: Okay, we take the teaching in, let it disrupt the world, our worldview, and then from that place of experience and practice, and how it’s actually landed in our life. Then from there we find

880
01:14:35.800 –> 01:14:37.020
Stephanie Nosco: our true voice.

881
01:14:37.200 –> 01:14:37.670
Nyk Danu Yoga: Yeah.

882
01:14:37.670 –> 01:14:41.909
Stephanie Nosco: But we actually have to practice it. First, st we have to practice something we have to let.

883
01:14:41.910 –> 01:14:42.310
Nyk Danu Yoga: Such a.

884
01:14:42.310 –> 01:14:43.749
Stephanie Nosco: Be disrupted, and people.

885
01:14:43.750 –> 01:14:45.309
Nyk Danu Yoga: In such a rush to find that.

886
01:14:45.310 –> 01:14:46.510
Stephanie Nosco: Right. But that’s right.

887
01:14:46.510 –> 01:14:47.170
Nyk Danu Yoga: I am.

888
01:14:47.170 –> 01:14:50.620
Stephanie Nosco: It takes time, and that’s the wisdom of the kidneys. Right is.

889
01:14:50.620 –> 01:14:51.010
Nyk Danu Yoga: Yes.

890
01:14:51.010 –> 01:14:55.070
Stephanie Nosco: The time to let things land to practice them.

891
01:14:55.280 –> 01:15:01.970
Stephanie Nosco: And then it’s like the another thing about the kidneys is. It’s about divine timing. So it’s about

892
01:15:02.390 –> 01:15:15.660
Stephanie Nosco: aligning Heaven’s will with personal will, like people. Think of the the spirit of the kidneys is called the right, and it means will, but it’s really about aligning this greater will of of heaven. But it’s also of earth.

893
01:15:15.870 –> 01:15:16.220
Nyk Danu Yoga: In? Who.

894
01:15:16.220 –> 01:15:20.360
Stephanie Nosco: We’re meant to be my teacher. Lori calls it this intellicy

895
01:15:20.500 –> 01:15:30.749
Stephanie Nosco: who we’re meant to grow into on a very physical level like there’s physical energy to go in certain directions, like some people. Just have a natural affinity for certain things, and that’s.

896
01:15:30.750 –> 01:15:31.180
Nyk Danu Yoga: Also.

897
01:15:31.180 –> 01:15:32.279
Stephanie Nosco: Body thing.

898
01:15:32.340 –> 01:15:37.619
Stephanie Nosco: but it’s matching that will with the will of of the of timing

899
01:15:37.710 –> 01:15:45.670
Stephanie Nosco: place of situations. It’s it’s really, and it takes patience. It’s so. You’re both.

900
01:15:45.670 –> 01:15:47.090
Nyk Danu Yoga: Is a perfect example of that.

901
01:15:47.090 –> 01:15:47.670
Stephanie Nosco: Yes.

902
01:15:48.000 –> 01:15:49.469
Nyk Danu Yoga: You know you went away.

903
01:15:49.500 –> 01:15:54.399
Nyk Danu Yoga: You dove deep. You kind of had this like. I’d like to write a book thing in your head.

904
01:15:54.520 –> 01:16:00.639
Nyk Danu Yoga: You came home, and the universe was like, Hey, here’s a couple of opportunities. Choose one.

905
01:16:00.640 –> 01:16:03.860
Stephanie Nosco: Right, and then on my yi spirit, the ye being about.

906
01:16:03.880 –> 01:16:10.839
Stephanie Nosco: you know, day in and day out, getting up and doing the thing, even though you don’t feel like doing it. That was very much involved. Right? I had to like.

907
01:16:10.900 –> 01:16:21.059
Stephanie Nosco: write the to-do lists and follow through on those actions. Yeah, the ye and the stomach and spleen is very much about devotion. It takes an incredible amount of devotion to manifest anything in our life.

908
01:16:21.180 –> 01:16:21.570
Nyk Danu Yoga: Yes, and.

909
01:16:21.570 –> 01:16:26.299
Stephanie Nosco: Then, of course, then my lung spirit was like, Oh, my gosh! I’m an imposter!

910
01:16:26.540 –> 01:16:27.120
Nyk Danu Yoga: I can’t do.

911
01:16:27.120 –> 01:16:29.479
Stephanie Nosco: This right. It’s all the demons that come up around.

912
01:16:29.480 –> 01:16:29.950
Nyk Danu Yoga: Yes.

913
01:16:29.950 –> 01:16:35.440
Stephanie Nosco: Worth issues. And you know, so it was funny in the experience of writing the book.

914
01:16:35.780 –> 01:16:42.760
Stephanie Nosco: I really, I really got to live through all of the all of the spirits right? It felt like I was in.

915
01:16:43.050 –> 01:16:45.790
Stephanie Nosco: It. Felt like the book was writing me in some ways.

916
01:16:46.680 –> 01:16:50.380
Nyk Danu Yoga: I don’t know if you had this fear. I know that I always have this fear about

917
01:16:50.500 –> 01:16:53.199
Nyk Danu Yoga: sitting down and finally getting a book done

918
01:16:53.920 –> 01:16:58.619
Nyk Danu Yoga: it because I’m always an ever-growing, changing, learning being.

919
01:16:58.660 –> 01:17:00.340
Nyk Danu Yoga: I’m often afraid that

920
01:17:00.420 –> 01:17:03.059
Nyk Danu Yoga: what if what I put on paper now

921
01:17:03.310 –> 01:17:19.359
Nyk Danu Yoga: 5 years from now? I’m like that’s not how I would have said that, actually, or hmm! I don’t really know if I believe that anymore, or hmm, that probably was, you know, not the best way to put that or something like that. And I and I mean so I don’t really have like

922
01:17:19.660 –> 01:17:23.529
Nyk Danu Yoga: a feeling often of imposter syndrome, but I do have a feeling of like

923
01:17:23.700 –> 01:17:25.110
Nyk Danu Yoga: once. This is

924
01:17:25.410 –> 01:17:27.220
Nyk Danu Yoga: here in print.

925
01:17:27.470 –> 01:17:28.820
Nyk Danu Yoga: that’s forever.

926
01:17:29.270 –> 01:17:33.700
Nyk Danu Yoga: And what happens if you know, if you’re lucky enough as an author.

927
01:17:33.750 –> 01:17:42.939
Nyk Danu Yoga: 10 years later. Your publisher says your book did so. Well, do you want to do like an updated kind of right? And then you then you have that opportunity. But for a lot of books

928
01:17:43.040 –> 01:17:47.350
Nyk Danu Yoga: you never do right. So, for example, one small example might be

929
01:17:47.590 –> 01:17:51.299
Nyk Danu Yoga: me really diving deep, currently right now into

930
01:17:52.092 –> 01:17:54.779
Nyk Danu Yoga: Chinese medicine versus Tcm.

931
01:17:55.110 –> 01:18:08.930
Nyk Danu Yoga: And they’re already looking at my manual and going. Oh, there’s some tweaks I want to make there, now that I have this broader understanding. And I just think that’s gonna happen for my whole life, because I’m a nerd, and I always wanna learn more and grow more. And you know.

932
01:18:09.175 –> 01:18:14.354
Nyk Danu Yoga: So did you have any of that fear coming up where it was like? Oh, now this is in right in writing.

933
01:18:14.590 –> 01:18:18.109
Stephanie Nosco: Yeah, I mean, I have that right now, like I already have that. I’m like.

934
01:18:18.110 –> 01:18:18.440
Nyk Danu Yoga: Yeah.

935
01:18:18.440 –> 01:18:23.190
Stephanie Nosco: Written that differently. Yeah. So I think I think it’s taking the pressure off of your book.

936
01:18:23.250 –> 01:18:25.680
Stephanie Nosco: especially your 1st book doesn’t have to be

937
01:18:25.740 –> 01:18:33.209
Stephanie Nosco: everything. Yeah, it’s just represents a small sliver of where you are in your process. And knowing that that

938
01:18:33.350 –> 01:18:37.090
Stephanie Nosco: place in your process might help people

939
01:18:37.180 –> 01:18:43.150
Stephanie Nosco: right? Because, you know, now I’m here in a little bit later on in my process. But there’s a lot of people that

940
01:18:43.200 –> 01:18:45.089
Stephanie Nosco: maybe are where I was.

941
01:18:45.430 –> 01:18:51.730
Stephanie Nosco: and that that place will reach people and help people. And then there’s the next thing. Then there’s the next book.

942
01:18:51.730 –> 01:18:54.780
Nyk Danu Yoga: The next book exactly the next course. The next. Yeah.

943
01:18:55.139 –> 01:18:56.579
Stephanie Nosco: Yeah, yeah. So it’s

944
01:18:56.840 –> 01:18:59.075
Stephanie Nosco: yeah, there’s definitely

945
01:19:00.190 –> 01:19:03.360
Stephanie Nosco: I would highly recommend the experience of writing a book was

946
01:19:03.540 –> 01:19:05.710
Stephanie Nosco: transformative on a personal level for me.

947
01:19:05.710 –> 01:19:06.360
Nyk Danu Yoga: Yeah.

948
01:19:07.540 –> 01:19:10.090
Nyk Danu Yoga: I think maybe we’ll slowly start to wrap things up.

949
01:19:10.090 –> 01:19:10.670
Stephanie Nosco: Sure.

950
01:19:10.670 –> 01:19:20.319
Nyk Danu Yoga: I would love to do some icebreaker questions with you, but I do always to close with guests, and then, after that, I’d love for you to share your parting prayer. That’s in the book.

951
01:19:20.320 –> 01:19:22.229
Stephanie Nosco: Sure if you don’t mind reading it. Yeah, of course.

952
01:19:22.230 –> 01:19:23.410
Nyk Danu Yoga: It’s so lovely.

953
01:19:23.440 –> 01:19:28.729
Nyk Danu Yoga: Okay? So some of these questions are light, and some of them are, you know, slightly more

954
01:19:28.740 –> 01:19:31.439
Nyk Danu Yoga: soulful. Of course no right or wrong, answers

955
01:19:31.570 –> 01:19:33.159
Nyk Danu Yoga: coffee or tea.

956
01:19:35.570 –> 01:19:36.910
Stephanie Nosco: How do I choose?

957
01:19:37.410 –> 01:19:38.850
Nyk Danu Yoga: Oh, I can’t think.

958
01:19:38.850 –> 01:19:46.930
Stephanie Nosco: Oh, gosh! So I actually practiced Taiwanese like a form of tea service Chinese tea service. So I think I’d have to say tea.

959
01:19:46.930 –> 01:19:47.570
Nyk Danu Yoga: Okay.

960
01:19:47.570 –> 01:19:47.990
Stephanie Nosco: Yeah.

961
01:19:47.990 –> 01:19:51.069
Nyk Danu Yoga: I know that one was actually impossible for me as well to choose.

962
01:19:51.070 –> 01:19:53.220
Stephanie Nosco: And but I also love coffee. I love both of them.

963
01:19:53.220 –> 01:19:55.919
Nyk Danu Yoga: The answer is, it depends depends

964
01:19:56.370 –> 01:20:01.419
Nyk Danu Yoga: favorite ice cream flavor. Now, I realize in Tcm, we don’t eat a lot of cool things. But just imagine.

965
01:20:01.730 –> 01:20:04.290
Stephanie Nosco: Oh, oh.

966
01:20:09.040 –> 01:20:11.869
Stephanie Nosco: I don’t have to say just a regular vanilla.

967
01:20:12.300 –> 01:20:13.000
Nyk Danu Yoga: Nice.

968
01:20:13.330 –> 01:20:13.950
Stephanie Nosco: Yeah.

969
01:20:15.330 –> 01:20:18.209
Nyk Danu Yoga: One thing people often get wrong about me.

970
01:20:19.040 –> 01:20:19.860
Stephanie Nosco: Hmm!

971
01:20:20.550 –> 01:20:21.530
Stephanie Nosco: My height.

972
01:20:22.440 –> 01:20:23.070
Nyk Danu Yoga: Nice.

973
01:20:23.070 –> 01:20:32.570
Stephanie Nosco: Yeah, a lot of people they meet me like in person after, like, you know, following me on Instagram or on my glow classes. And they’re like, I always thought you’d be taller.

974
01:20:32.570 –> 01:20:34.000
Nyk Danu Yoga: I get that all the time, too.

975
01:20:34.000 –> 01:20:34.610
Stephanie Nosco: Yeah.

976
01:20:34.920 –> 01:20:36.780
Nyk Danu Yoga: I think somehow, in people’s

977
01:20:36.860 –> 01:20:41.290
Nyk Danu Yoga: minds, if you’re, you know, if you’re intelligent and confident, they just think you’re taller.

978
01:20:41.290 –> 01:20:49.109
Stephanie Nosco: Yeah, yeah, even my, even my husband. We were dating for like 6 months. And he’s like, What are you? 5, 7. And I was like No.

979
01:20:49.430 –> 01:20:53.230
Stephanie Nosco: 5, 3 on a good day.

980
01:20:53.502 –> 01:20:54.320
Nyk Danu Yoga: Standing up straight.

981
01:20:54.320 –> 01:20:54.960
Stephanie Nosco: Yeah.

982
01:20:55.762 –> 01:21:00.119
Nyk Danu Yoga: When I’m not practicing Qigong. I am.

983
01:21:00.740 –> 01:21:01.990
Stephanie Nosco: Oh!

984
01:21:04.360 –> 01:21:06.159
Stephanie Nosco: Walking in the forest.

985
01:21:06.160 –> 01:21:07.020
Nyk Danu Yoga: Excellent.

986
01:21:07.800 –> 01:21:09.610
Nyk Danu Yoga: Do you have a pop culture, vice.

987
01:21:09.800 –> 01:21:12.630
Nyk Danu Yoga: a book series, a show, a movie series, something that you.

988
01:21:12.630 –> 01:21:13.170
Stephanie Nosco: Oh no!

989
01:21:13.170 –> 01:21:14.170
Nyk Danu Yoga: But resist.

990
01:21:15.270 –> 01:21:19.849
Stephanie Nosco: Okay, this is kind of a weird one. The last avatar.

991
01:21:20.490 –> 01:21:21.390
Nyk Danu Yoga: Hmm.

992
01:21:21.390 –> 01:21:23.659
Stephanie Nosco: You know that show is like a cartoon.

993
01:21:23.820 –> 01:21:25.050
Nyk Danu Yoga: I haven’t seen it, but oh, my God!

994
01:21:25.050 –> 01:21:27.720
Stephanie Nosco: You’d like it. It’s like this cartoon with like

995
01:21:27.750 –> 01:21:29.557
Stephanie Nosco: like the different

996
01:21:31.180 –> 01:21:33.380
Stephanie Nosco: they’re like different tribes of the elements.

997
01:21:33.570 –> 01:21:34.670
Nyk Danu Yoga: Oh, cool!

998
01:21:34.670 –> 01:21:35.039
Stephanie Nosco: She had.

999
01:21:35.040 –> 01:21:35.839
Nyk Danu Yoga: Last or long.

1000
01:21:35.840 –> 01:21:37.590
Stephanie Nosco: The last, the last avatar.

1001
01:21:37.590 –> 01:21:37.970
Nyk Danu Yoga: Okay.

1002
01:21:37.970 –> 01:21:38.770
Stephanie Nosco: Yeah, yeah.

1003
01:21:38.770 –> 01:21:39.200
Nyk Danu Yoga: Like, you know.

1004
01:21:39.200 –> 01:21:40.300
Stephanie Nosco: So good.

1005
01:21:40.660 –> 01:21:48.019
Nyk Danu Yoga: The perfect kind of thing to do over the holiday break for me is to dive into some new show. Otherwise it’s like I I can’t. You know, I want to watch it all.

1006
01:21:48.050 –> 01:21:48.690
Nyk Danu Yoga: Yeah.

1007
01:21:49.480 –> 01:21:51.670
Nyk Danu Yoga: One weird fact about you.

1008
01:21:53.650 –> 01:21:54.430
Stephanie Nosco: Oh,

1009
01:21:57.690 –> 01:21:59.779
Stephanie Nosco: Like! How weird does it have to be.

1010
01:21:59.950 –> 01:22:01.110
Nyk Danu Yoga: Well, whatever you want to share.

1011
01:22:01.110 –> 01:22:01.920
Stephanie Nosco: Oh,

1012
01:22:03.140 –> 01:22:04.910
Nyk Danu Yoga: Whenever you feel comfortable, sharing.

1013
01:22:04.910 –> 01:22:07.379
Stephanie Nosco: A weird fact about me.

1014
01:22:12.730 –> 01:22:17.749
Stephanie Nosco: Oh, well, that’s not really weird. It’s more interesting. Okay. I made. I made up my last name.

1015
01:22:18.460 –> 01:22:20.470
Nyk Danu Yoga: Oh, that’s interesting!

1016
01:22:21.030 –> 01:22:25.800
Stephanie Nosco: Yeah, yeah, Nosco is a Latin, for

1017
01:22:26.250 –> 01:22:32.649
Stephanie Nosco: it’s like the Latin equivalent of gnosis, which means knowledge of spiritual mysteries, and I

1018
01:22:32.840 –> 01:22:38.229
Stephanie Nosco: chose it just after I went through separation, and I didn’t want to go back to my maiden name.

1019
01:22:38.320 –> 01:22:39.539
Stephanie Nosco: and I just chose it.

1020
01:22:39.840 –> 01:22:42.920
Nyk Danu Yoga: Most people don’t know this about me, but I also chose my last name.

1021
01:22:42.920 –> 01:22:44.000
Stephanie Nosco: Really.

1022
01:22:45.430 –> 01:22:47.370
Stephanie Nosco: I have strangely a lot in common.

1023
01:22:47.370 –> 01:22:50.140
Nyk Danu Yoga: Relationship and all that stuff right? It was like

1024
01:22:50.170 –> 01:22:52.550
Nyk Danu Yoga: I was doing a lot of stage work at the time.

1025
01:22:52.550 –> 01:22:53.280
Stephanie Nosco: Yeah.

1026
01:22:53.280 –> 01:23:00.829
Nyk Danu Yoga: And you know, doing hair. And I just thought and I’ve always hated my middle name. So I was like, well, if I’m gonna change my name.

1027
01:23:01.230 –> 01:23:09.610
Nyk Danu Yoga: Why don’t I just choose one now? My 1st name is the same. I just they just changed the spelling slightly, but my last name I got rid of my middle name.

1028
01:23:09.700 –> 01:23:21.500
Nyk Danu Yoga: And then, yeah, I chose my last name. It took me a year of I mean, it is an actual word. It’s well. Danu is like the Celtic water goddess, and it’s a whole, a whole Celtic thing there. But

1029
01:23:21.580 –> 01:23:31.919
Nyk Danu Yoga: but yeah, interesting. Yeah, I also did the same. I was like, well, if I’m gonna pay all this money, get new Id to do the legal name change, I gotta change all my bank accounts. I’m gonna choose a name that like

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Nyk Danu Yoga: that, I feel fits me. Yeah.

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Nyk Danu Yoga: very cool.

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Nyk Danu Yoga: What the world needs now is.

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Stephanie Nosco: Love.

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Nyk Danu Yoga: Yeah, that’s always my answer, too.

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Stephanie Nosco: Yeah.

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Nyk Danu Yoga: One thing I wish people knew about yin yoga.

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Stephanie Nosco: That it’s actually Qigong.

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Nyk Danu Yoga: Nice.

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Stephanie Nosco: They’re not different.

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Nyk Danu Yoga: They’re not separate.

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Stephanie Nosco: No.

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Nyk Danu Yoga: Is there anything that I forgot to ask you about that? You want to add?

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Nyk Danu Yoga: I mean, of course, I’m gonna give you an opportunity to

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Nyk Danu Yoga: give your website and all that business.

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Stephanie Nosco: Yeah.

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Stephanie Nosco: Hmm.

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Stephanie Nosco: think so? I think that felt.

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Stephanie Nosco: yeah, that felt really complete. To me. It was a nice conversation.

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Nyk Danu Yoga: So friends that are listening.

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Nyk Danu Yoga: you know we always do. an opportunity for Stephanie to share where she’s at

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Nyk Danu Yoga: all of that, but also want to mention

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Nyk Danu Yoga: her. And I are working on a book giveaway.

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Nyk Danu Yoga: We cannot give you all the details in this episode because they’re her. I mean. It’s a good position to be in, but her book is currently out of print because they sold too many. So we’re kind of waiting on

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Nyk Danu Yoga: shipping and things like that. But if you are interested in winning a copy of this book.

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Nyk Danu Yoga: head over to my Instagram and Stephanie’s Instagram, both of which will be linked in the show notes, but you can also say it out in a moment, and there will be details about the giveaway there.

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Nyk Danu Yoga: So it’ll be an Instagram giveaway, and you could get yourself a book. So that. And then let us know your website and your Instagram, and where people can find you.

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Stephanie Nosco: Yeah, sure. So my website is my name, stephanienosco.com.

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Stephanie Nosco: And on my website, I have various online courses you can take. Sometimes I run them live. A lot of them are on demand, and I specifically go into the topics of Chinese medicine, the emotions and the organs kind of a blend of Yin and

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Stephanie Nosco: Qigong.

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Stephanie Nosco: and my Instagram is just my name, Stephanie Nosco.

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Nyk Danu Yoga: Beautiful.

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Stephanie Nosco: My book is, follow your dao, and you can buy it on any

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Stephanie Nosco: any anywhere. You get your books.

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Nyk Danu Yoga: All the places.

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Stephanie Nosco: All the places.

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Nyk Danu Yoga: And it’s

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Nyk Danu Yoga: incredibly

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Nyk Danu Yoga: And I’m I’m just gonna say this like, I’m not trying to blow smoke up. Stephanie’s ass here. I actually really love this book?

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Nyk Danu Yoga: Yeah.

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Nyk Danu Yoga: not only is it gorgeous, it’s accessible and and has depth all at the same time. And that is not an easy task

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Nyk Danu Yoga: to make these.

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Stephanie Nosco: Thank you.

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Nyk Danu Yoga: Esoteric concepts

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Nyk Danu Yoga: coherent to the average everyday person, so well done on that, and for those of you that are yin yoga nerds and love Chinese medicine. If that’s something that really interests you, you’re going to get so much from reading this book.

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Nyk Danu Yoga: You know. Sometimes I I get a book, and I read it, and then I’ll interview the person, and then

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Nyk Danu Yoga: eventually their book ends up in the one that goes to the used bookstore later pile. But this one, this one.

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Stephanie Nosco: Yeah, thank you so much for saying that. And I will say that one of my

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Stephanie Nosco: one of my missions, I guess, especially as a as to to share with the Yoga teaching world is,

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Stephanie Nosco: you know, really encouraging people to learn the principles behind the meridians, and that includes the

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Stephanie Nosco: the elemental archetypes and the spirits of them right, and then using that to as I walk in the room, how can I trust my own shen now in my body, you know. How can I keep my shen in my body, speak from that truth? And then, also having the skills to feel into a room and pulling what might be needed from a deeper well of understanding of Chinese medicine.

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Stephanie Nosco: So that’s kind of my niche.

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Stephanie Nosco: Yeah, I think it is yours, too. Yes.

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Nyk Danu Yoga: You know, I always I often just say, you know, if if people, if you’re if you’re

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Nyk Danu Yoga: if you’ve only dabbled in a tiny bit of knowledge. And Tcm, if you’ve only heard about heard about your meridians in your 50 h, that’s not the time to share them.

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Stephanie Nosco: Not the time. Yeah, yeah.

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Nyk Danu Yoga: Use them as inspiration for your own path, deep in your study, if you feel passionate about these things, but like, please don’t feel pressure to make a video for the kidney bladder meridian. You don’t really understand why someone might want to work with their kidney bladder meridium.

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Nyk Danu Yoga: It’s like, Please stop doing that, you know.

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Stephanie Nosco: Exactly, exactly.

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Nyk Danu Yoga: Okay.

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Stephanie Nosco: Yeah, yeah.

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Nyk Danu Yoga: Yeah.

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Stephanie Nosco: And I do.

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Stephanie Nosco: you know, and a lot of questions come in about the teacher training. I run because I don’t run general teacher and teacher trainings. I don’t. The course that I run is about

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Stephanie Nosco: okay. How are we going to take the the psycho emotional aspects of the organs to to deepen our our yin Yoga offerings so that you can check out that information on my website as well.

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Nyk Danu Yoga: Awesome. So, friends, I have asked Stephanie to share

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Nyk Danu Yoga: the parting prayer at the end of her book, because I think it is so beautiful. So if you are in a place like I am, where you can get comfortable, sit tall, close your eyes.

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Nyk Danu Yoga: you know. Maybe bring your hands to your heart if that feels right for you.

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Nyk Danu Yoga: please do if you are not able to do that because you are currently driving, please just bookmark this and come back to a point where you can be standing or seated, and

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Nyk Danu Yoga: be present to this without slamming into other cars.

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Stephanie Nosco: Yes, the way I always say it, Nick, is, you know you listen to poetry

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Stephanie Nosco: and a prayer something like this, like you listen to rain.

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Nyk Danu Yoga: Like, you know.

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Stephanie Nosco: Listen to a babbling brook.

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Stephanie Nosco: It’s like that non-cling way of listening.

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Stephanie Nosco: And this the style of this writing, I will say also, was inspired by John O’donoghue. I don’t know if you know him.

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Stephanie Nosco: Work, but the style of it is very. John O’donoghue.

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Nyk Danu Yoga: Oh, he’s amazing!

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Nyk Danu Yoga: Okay. When you’re ready, my friend.

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Stephanie Nosco: A parting prayer.

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Stephanie Nosco: May your heart guide you towards the truth of who you are.

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Stephanie Nosco: may joy expand you into a wider circle of connection where your light can be seen and celebrated.

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Stephanie Nosco: May your liver move you in the direction of your dreams.

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Stephanie Nosco: giving you the tenacity to stand up for the benefit of all.

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Stephanie Nosco: May compassion hold you in your imperfection, patiently supporting you in your growth.

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Stephanie Nosco: may your spleen center your resolve in each steady step of the journey.

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Stephanie Nosco: grounding your intentions with constancy into your thoughts, words, and actions.

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Stephanie Nosco: May you remember earth as your original mother.

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Stephanie Nosco: and allow yourself to fully receive her nourishment.

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Stephanie Nosco: May your lungs hold on to what is precious.

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Stephanie Nosco: and help you release when the time is right?

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Stephanie Nosco: May grief act as a teacher

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Stephanie Nosco: for deeper love and understanding of what it means to be mortal.

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Stephanie Nosco: May your kidneys instill faith in the fertile darkness

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Stephanie Nosco: helping you navigate the unknown.

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Stephanie Nosco: may fear, help, safeguard your resources.

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Stephanie Nosco: and challenge you to emerge into your most authentic expression.

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Nyk Danu Yoga: Thank you.

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Stephanie Nosco: Thank you so much.

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Nyk Danu Yoga: Oh, beautiful

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Nyk Danu Yoga: we’ll say our proper goodbyes once I stop the recording.

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Nyk Danu Yoga: but for those of you that are listening. Thank you and bye, for now.

 

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Nyk Danu Yoga: Hi Yinies, and welcome back to a yin Yoga. Podcast

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Nyk Danu Yoga: if you are new around here, welcome thanks for joining

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Nyk Danu Yoga: and for those of you that have been here for a while. Welcome back.

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Nyk Danu Yoga: I have a guest interview. Today. I’m going to talk to someone about a fantastic book.

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Nyk Danu Yoga: I will get to that in just a moment. But before I do.

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Nyk Danu Yoga: I wanted to say, if you’ve been listening for a while, and you have not yet

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Nyk Danu Yoga: subscribed or followed the podcast and or offered a review.

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Nyk Danu Yoga: I would be super grateful if you would take

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Nyk Danu Yoga: 2 min of your time

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Nyk Danu Yoga: to give me some stars on the spotify app, or if you’re on apple, you could do stars and write a written review. I would really really appreciate.

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Nyk Danu Yoga: Your review.

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Nyk Danu Yoga: So if you’ve been loving the podcast, if you’ve been finding it helpful with your teaching, or even if you’re not a teacher, please take a moment. Give me some 5 stars. I would be super grateful. This just helps to show the algorithms that this

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Nyk Danu Yoga: podcast is actually getting listened to and enjoyed. And so they’re more likely to show it to other people that are searching for your Yoga Podcasts or for Yoga podcasts.

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Nyk Danu Yoga: Thank you ever so much

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Nyk Danu Yoga: for that

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Nyk Danu Yoga: okay, my friends. Today we have a guest interview

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Nyk Danu Yoga: with Stephanie Nosco.

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Nyk Danu Yoga: I’ll read you her bio. And she recently not that long ago, put out a book which we’re going to talk about today. I’ve read it. It’s amazing. Here it is for those of you that are on Youtube.

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Nyk Danu Yoga: You can see it

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Nyk Danu Yoga: if you’re not on Youtube. And you want to see the cover of the book because it’s stunning. By the way.

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Nyk Danu Yoga: you can always just hop over to the full show notes which is on my blog. There’s a link wherever you’re listening to this, and you can see images and such there.

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Nyk Danu Yoga: Okay.

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Nyk Danu Yoga: so a little bio about. Stephanie.

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Nyk Danu Yoga: Stephanie is a psychotherapist, somatic educator and a dedicated practitioner and student of Qigong, Chinese medicine, Buddhism and depth psychology

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Nyk Danu Yoga: residing on the beautiful Vancouver Island so she’s my neighbor.

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Nyk Danu Yoga: not technically like in my building, but we live on the same island.

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Nyk Danu Yoga: She draws inspiration from her dreams. Nature and the wisdom of the 5 elements to explore the complexities of the human experience.

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Nyk Danu Yoga: Her teaching approach weaves together ancient wisdom and modern practices, making abstract concepts relatable and accessible

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Nyk Danu Yoga: as a teacher on glow. Formerly Yoga glow. She shares sorry Qigong practices with a global audience and leads silent Qigong and meditation retreats worldwide.

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Nyk Danu Yoga: Stephanie is also the author of

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Nyk Danu Yoga: Follow your Dao, which is that beautiful book I just held up

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Nyk Danu Yoga: a book that introduces the physical, psychological, and spiritual functions of the 5 primary organs in Chinese medicine.

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Nyk Danu Yoga: Additionally, she conducts comprehensive teacher training programs in Chinese energetics, equipping Yoga instructors, body workers and therapists with a more

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Nyk Danu Yoga: let’s try that again, shall we? All right?

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Nyk Danu Yoga: Oh.

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Nyk Danu Yoga: today.

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Nyk Danu Yoga: even in our language, you know.

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Nyk Danu Yoga: And then.

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Nyk Danu Yoga: Hi, everyone. My name is Stephanie Mosco, and welcome.

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Nyk Danu Yoga: Okay, cut

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Nyk Danu Yoga: round 2.

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Nyk Danu Yoga: Let me introduce you to today’s guest.

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Nyk Danu Yoga: everyone. My name is Stephanie Mosco, and welcome

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Nyk Danu Yoga: all right round. 3. Let me introduce you to today’s guest.

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Nyk Danu Yoga: Stephanie Nusco.

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Nyk Danu Yoga: So I’ll read you. Stephanie’s Bio

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Nyk Danu Yoga: Stephanie is a psychotherapist, somatic educator and dedicated practitioner and student of Qigong Yoga, Chinese medicine

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Nyk Danu Yoga: Buddhism, and depth psychology.

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Nyk Danu Yoga: residing on beautiful Vancouver Island. So technically, we live on the same island. I didn’t even know that

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Nyk Danu Yoga: she draws inspiration from her dreams. Nature and the wisdom of the 5 elements to explore the complexities of the human experience.

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Nyk Danu Yoga: Her teaching approach weaves together ancient wisdom and modern practices, making abstract concepts relatable and accessible

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Nyk Danu Yoga: as a teacher on glow which is formerly Yoga glow. She shares Qigong, practices with a global audience and leads silent Qigong and meditation retreats worldwide.

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Nyk Danu Yoga: Stephanie is also the author of Follow your Dao. That’s the beautiful book that I’m holding up. If you’re watching the video, if not, you can see it on my blog

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Nyk Danu Yoga: that introduces the physical, psychological, and spiritual functions of the 5 element primary organs of Chinese medicine.

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Nyk Danu Yoga: Additionally, she conducts comprehensive teacher training programs in Chinese energetics.

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Nyk Danu Yoga: equipping Yoga instructors, body workers and therapists to work more deeply at the spiritual level of health.

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Nyk Danu Yoga: All right. So that’s a little bit about Stephanie. And when you hear from me. Next I will be with Stephanie.

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Nyk Danu Yoga: Just a reminder.

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Nyk Danu Yoga: dear listeners, that this is an adult podcast with adult subject, matter and adult language.

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Nyk Danu Yoga: that myself, and some of my guests have souls of mermaids, but mouths of sailors. So if you have little people around.

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Nyk Danu Yoga: please put some headphones on. Now

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Nyk Danu Yoga: welcome, Stephanie.

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Stephanie Nosco: Thank you. It’s so good to be here.

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Nyk Danu Yoga: This is very exciting one, because I just completely read your book and nerded out.

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Nyk Danu Yoga: So that’s exciting.

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Nyk Danu Yoga: But also what a lot of the listeners don’t know, probably, is that we actually come from the same city and province, and now we both have moved away from there, and we live on the same island, which I didn’t even know until.

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Stephanie Nosco: Yes.

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Nyk Danu Yoga: I read the book.

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Nyk Danu Yoga: Very weird.

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Nyk Danu Yoga: Very cool. Yeah.

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Stephanie Nosco: Cool.

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Nyk Danu Yoga: So that’s awesome. And I think it’s funny because anyone who’s Canadian listening to this, or maybe anyone who lives in a smaller area, you know whether it’s Scotland or Ireland, or, you know, cause

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Nyk Danu Yoga: So that’s kind of a a fun history. And I’m very excited to dive into talking about your book in a bit and your work. But

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Nyk Danu Yoga: I know for a fact that Yoga teachers love to hear other Yoga teachers origin stories. So I would love to hear let’s start with, maybe like, how did you find Yoga.

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Stephanie Nosco: And I was in a low point, like a very low point in my life, and I remembered how I felt

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Stephanie Nosco: and at the same time. So this was kind of happening. So I started doing more Yoga in my room at university, and at the same time I was taking an intro to religious studies. Course.

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Stephanie Nosco: There’s something there. And I was the same thing that I felt in Yoga. So there was these 2 Poles of the religious studies, and she

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Stephanie Nosco: and so I dove right in. I dove into Yoga, and I got my teacher training. At 19 years old I went and I got my 200 h, and because I was living I did my university, I took my university at

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Stephanie Nosco: like literally, I think there was like one other Yoga teacher at the time, and so right away I started teaching like 5 classes a week, and I had no idea what I was doing, you know. 200 h

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Stephanie Nosco: In India. It was so random I was.

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Stephanie Nosco: there was a a guy there who was visiting. He wasn’t even a teacher at the Ashram. He wasn’t even a Yogi or whatever. And I guess he just taught a guest class, and he’s like we’re going to do this thing called yin.

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Stephanie Nosco: So when I returned from India I signed up for Bernie Clark’s training, which is.

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Stephanie Nosco: Long, silent retreats. So I did long, silent retreats. I was studying yin I was teaching yin, and

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Nyk Danu Yoga: Yeah, no, I had a very similar feeling, the very 1st yoga class that I ever took.

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Nyk Danu Yoga: Yeah. Yeah. And I was totally bullied in. I had 0 interest in going. I just went because my friends wanted to do this beginner, Yoga course, and I was like rolling my eyes the whole time, and

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Nyk Danu Yoga: and I was the only one that it stuck. It’s like they were like.

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Nyk Danu Yoga: Yay, 6 weeks. That was fun. Let’s do a cooking class, and I was like no yoga forever, you know. So that is very cool. That you would be in India.

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Stephanie Nosco: I know in India. And then it was I was traveling around India, and what would I do like? I didn’t practice really what I learned at that, Ashram. I was practicing yin in my room like I was just like.

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Stephanie Nosco: and and when I got home, same it was like, and so that’s yeah, it. It really had a big impact on me. It was the stopping and the slowing down, and maybe even the permission to do that. Yeah,

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Stephanie Nosco: Yeah. And it was like really opening my eyes to my inner world that you know. And it was a slow doorway from running to, you know, Vinyasa Yoga, to like the Kundalini Yoga. And then it was like yin. It was like taking a magnifying glass on this whole inner landscape that I’d been running from my whole life.

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Stephanie Nosco: And then I really started getting into the Buddhadharma and sitting long retreats.

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Stephanie Nosco: Yeah downstairs little den, and they had a qigong with Minera, and she did the spring forest qigong. And so I remember I was kind of doing it with her and having some profound experiences. And then Carly was like you should try this medical Qigong

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Stephanie Nosco: I don’t get it, though, like, tell me more what is actually happening with my energy. What do you mean that the that the liver relates to the inner thigh, but like also more, please.

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Nyk Danu Yoga: beyond that can be problematic. I actually secretly just wish. And this is what’s not a secret now, because I’m about to say it. That any of the teachers, that. And those those ones that I adore, all of them, Sarah, Bernie and Paul. They’re all amazing humans.

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Nyk Danu Yoga: That they just stuck to like with Sarah. You know the Buddha Dharma is really her thing. Just one of the reasons that I adore her as a teacher, because I’m also Buddhist. It took me a long time to come out of the Buddhist closet.

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Stephanie Nosco: But aside from that, we’re not. We’re not applying needles. So to me. When I read Ted Kepchuk’s, you know the web that has a weaver. And there was a few other Chinese medicine books that Sarah referenced. It was like, this isn’t relevant to me.

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Stephanie Nosco: And so then to me, what felt more relevant was, how do we lead and guide energy?

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Stephanie Nosco: That’s what I’m teaching the meridian location. That’s just that’s just something that you can. Google, you know.

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Stephanie Nosco: Location. Okay, you can Google that. And I still have to Google it because I’m not an acupuncturist. I don’t. Yeah, you know. But to me, what becomes more relevant is, how do we teach and empower people how to actually move their Chi.

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Stephanie Nosco: I found it interesting to learn that Qigong is a relatively new term, that before they called it the Daoyins. And this whole, this whole idea that Qigong yeah, that Qigong was actually

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Stephanie Nosco: Here’s what’s wrong with me, and here’s what you do to fix it. It was always like, well, how can we preserve the life force, meaning boost the Chi

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Nyk Danu Yoga: How can we bring you into a state of harmony.

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Stephanie Nosco: Exactly. So you have to look at the whole thing. And then, like

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Stephanie Nosco: what I’ve been recently learning is like this medical Qigong thing actually came later, when.

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Stephanie Nosco: The Chinese Government came in and wanted to separate Taoism and the spiritual side of Qigong into medical and how to, you know, in some ways sanitize it, and also justify its medical relevance and say, Okay, now, this is the disease that you have. Here’s some exercises to do that are very prescriptive

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Nyk Danu Yoga: You know. So what was Chinese medicine, which was very, I mean, China is a huge country, too, so each region would have had their own kind of special sauce that they were doing right, based on where they lived, in the climate, there. And those people. And you know what, when it got mollified. Basically, they just.

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Nyk Danu Yoga: The center of it. Kind of was like, this is traditional Chinese medicine, and this is what we will export. And so so much of it has been left behind.

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Stephanie Nosco: That’s the most relevant thing that I want to

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Nyk Danu Yoga: because I’ve always said that the learnings and the teachings that I that I have in Chinese medicine were Tcm. Because the college that I studied at was largely Tcm. Although there was definitely other more just kind of Chinese medicine and 5 element courses like we did have a whole, you know, 5 element section.

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Nyk Danu Yoga: that was been kind of mollified and taught in our schools so that you can get a license so that you can put needles in people versus this kind of far bigger picture older system

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Nyk Danu Yoga: So you started practicing Qigong.

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Stephanie Nosco: well, it was Carly who told me about Noel who teaches medical Qigong. And so this is actually one thing I want to say about Qigong, so that

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Stephanie Nosco: just to clarify because a lot of people don’t realize that. You know we have. There’s kind of 2 branches of medical Qigong. There’s the external qigong, and then there’s the internals. So the internal meaning I’m doing qigong exercises to move the Qi myself.

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Stephanie Nosco: That can be an external form, like those flowing movements that you see people do in the park. That’s an external Weigong form. And then the internal nedong which is the in how we’re moving the Qi internally with meditation practices. Both can be happening at the same time. So those are all internal forms. And then the external is like, now I’m going to give a Qigong treatment on the table. A lot of people don’t know that this even exists, but it’s kind of like Reiki.

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Nyk Danu Yoga: And that’s what I had experienced only once, and had my mind completely blown. It’s like I was.

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Nyk Danu Yoga: So much, so powerful it was. It was more powerful than any acupuncture treatment I’ve ever had.

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Stephanie Nosco: Yes, and what I love about the program that Noel and my teacher, Wendy Run, is.

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Stephanie Nosco: And you know it is the external treatment that you get. But it’s also okay. Now, based on what I know about this person, on all these levels, physical, emotional, and spiritual. What kind of internal practices can I give them.

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Stephanie Nosco: And so I took their. You know, Wendy’s full program the 4 years. And now I’m on this other quest of really realizing that my dao is about empowering people to learn the internals.

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Stephanie Nosco: because I’m a yogi. That’s how I began, is like I that sitting with myself, stop running from myself and look inside of how I can impact my Chi on a daily basis.

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Stephanie Nosco: Like what I wrote in my book is, yes, Qigong is getting a treatment and practicing your forms. But then, what are you doing for the other 23 h in your day.

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Stephanie Nosco: That is going to impact your Chi more than anything. It’s the little tiny habits.

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Stephanie Nosco: I started practicing. Qigong and I started leading retreats and offering Qigong on retreats, and people were having freaking breakdowns.

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Stephanie Nosco: and I realized I am not prepared to guide people into their Psyche like this. And so I took my master’s in counseling.

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Nyk Danu Yoga: Good for you.

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Stephanie Nosco: Which was also like a really good experience. I thought that I was. Gonna you know, I’m going to be a psychotherapist and have a practice which I do. You know, I do see clients one to one, but I keep coming back to that. My Dao is really about teaching and inspiring people through my own practice and presence, through writing and through teaching empowering people to do their own work.

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Nyk Danu Yoga: and you are sending them home with homework. You know. i 1 of my, a yoga therapist friend, often says like, if you’re doing yoga therapy right? You’re trying to work yourself out of a job.

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Stephanie Nosco: Yes.

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Nyk Danu Yoga: Like you’re you’re trying to give them the tools

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Nyk Danu Yoga: to empower themselves to do it themselves.

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Nyk Danu Yoga: now, not to say that this this hands-on medical Qigong isn’t

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Nyk Danu Yoga: crazy powerful because it is but that that’s only that hour that they see you and like you said, then they leave, and if they just go back out into the world, and they haven’t.

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Nyk Danu Yoga: and they haven’t taken any of these lessons into their body or into their lifestyle. Then it’s gonna be kind of like one step forward, 2 steps back the whole time.

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Stephanie Nosco: You can’t ground the change.

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Nyk Danu Yoga: Yeah.

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Stephanie Nosco: Right, and that’s 1 of the things that I struggled with. Going to. Acupuncture is, I love getting needles, but you know they put all these needles in. They leave you in a dark room, and then they take them out and you leave, and it’s like.

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Stephanie Nosco: but can you give like, what, what, what points are you needling.

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Nyk Danu Yoga: Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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Stephanie Nosco: Find in my pulse.

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Stephanie Nosco: I want to know the why, and that’s that’s just me, and I know. But I do know that there’s other people that are interested in their health, and they’re interested.

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Nyk Danu Yoga: Yes.

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Stephanie Nosco: The why. And I’m so. I’m deeply interested in the why and when I share about you know the emotions and the organs. It’s

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Stephanie Nosco: people are interested in their bodies. They want to know what’s happening in there.

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Nyk Danu Yoga: It’s funny when you said that, because I’m the same way, I’ll actually be

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Nyk Danu Yoga: getting needled trying to balance the relax and just enjoy this treatment with said stomach 36. You just did, you know? Like, it’s a yeah, it’s hard.

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Stephanie Nosco: That makes sense. Yeah.

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Nyk Danu Yoga: Yeah, totally. Yeah. It’s like, Oh, Hago, good old Hago again, you know.

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Nyk Danu Yoga: so yeah, I totally get that and I also have students that I know

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Nyk Danu Yoga: aren’t even remotely interested in that.

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Stephanie Nosco: Right.

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Nyk Danu Yoga: You know, like I have students that will come to my classes, and they are more than happy to come to 3 classes a week.

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Nyk Danu Yoga: And that’s their yoga. They don’t practice it at home initially, although it does start to sneak its way in. You know, when they’re

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Nyk Danu Yoga: about to blow up with their partner about who did the dishes. They remember that breath technique that I taught them, or you know. So it does filter in slowly, but not everybody has the desire or the time

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Nyk Danu Yoga: to kind of have like this full practice that I wish everybody would. Do. You know where it’s like, carve out an hour. Roll out your mat, light some incense, let’s you know. Let’s spend this hour with yourself, you know.

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Stephanie Nosco: And this is actually one of the things that I started

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Stephanie Nosco: realizing when I started dripping Qigong slowly into my teaching

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Stephanie Nosco: was that it was so accessible.

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Stephanie Nosco: You don’t need a mat. You don’t need clothes.

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Stephanie Nosco: You don’t actually need that much time. It’s like you can do a single.

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Nyk Danu Yoga: Thanks.

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Stephanie Nosco: Portable. You can literally do like 15 min, less than 15 min, 8 min, and you can experience a pretty powerful shift. So that was really cool and and

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Stephanie Nosco: and in combination with the psychotherapy that I was doing, it was kind of integrating really nicely.

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Stephanie Nosco: And then I, because I was studying the mind and this

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Stephanie Nosco: psychotherapy as well as Qigong. I was really interested in the spirit dimensions of the organs which maybe we can get into a bit later. So the the whooshing, the 5 elements, and then the Wu Shen, which is the 5 spirit energies I met my teacher, Lori Deschar, which, if you haven’t worked with her before. She’s just

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Stephanie Nosco: freaking. Amazing. She’s a 5 element acupuncturist and a depth psychologist, or she’s not a depth psychologist. But she studied a lot of depth, psychology, and yeah, and she totally

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Stephanie Nosco: opened my mind to another layer of.

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Nyk Danu Yoga: I’ve already put her book on my wish list because you mentioned it. That’s this is how nerdy I am. Those of you on Youtube can see this. So here’s Stephanie’s book. You can already see all the little purple tabbies with notes on them. Some of them are, Oh, my God! Look at this book. Some of them are. Ask her this question. Some of them are read this part out, you know, whatever they happen to be, but I think there was at least 2 books that you mentioned in here that I was like right away. I was like, and I use my Amazon wish list. Not necessarily

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Nyk Danu Yoga: that I’m gonna buy it from Amazon. I usually prefer to try to source it elsewhere, but I use it almost just as like a library list of like.

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Stephanie Nosco: Library.

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Nyk Danu Yoga: To keep track of all the books, because I used to do it in my phone. And then one time my phone crashed and all the books that I’d put in there were gone, and so.

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Stephanie Nosco: Yeah.

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Nyk Danu Yoga: So if I’ve already got her book on my wish list, waiting.

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Stephanie Nosco: But yeah, so she she really taught me how to look at the at the organs. Just another layer.

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Nyk Danu Yoga: I don’t know.

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Stephanie Nosco: Like if we can come back to that example that you gave with the the grief.

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Stephanie Nosco: So

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Stephanie Nosco: you know what’s happening to that person’s

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Stephanie Nosco: spirit. Someone in grief is, there’s 2 things happening. Is it? Okay? If I go into an example.

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Nyk Danu Yoga: Totally please do.

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Stephanie Nosco: Yeah. So there’s a couple of things happening. The 1st thing is shock.

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Stephanie Nosco: And so what we know about shock is that the shen which is lives in our heart? It’s like our mind. The Shen is like a little bird. You can see it on the cover of the book. It’s a little bird, and when there’s a trauma like that, like a sudden loss any actually any loss

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Stephanie Nosco: the shin will disassociate from the body, so it’ll it’ll kind of fly up.

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Nyk Danu Yoga: Yeah.

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Stephanie Nosco: And so shock is.

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Stephanie Nosco: It’s 1 of those things that yes.

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Stephanie Nosco: you know, we do want to bring the the Shen back into the body right? Because it’s it’s in a state of disassociation. But why it’s in disassociation is because there’s so much pain in the lungs.

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Stephanie Nosco: and loss is one of those things that needs to be titrated.

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Nyk Danu Yoga: Just like.

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Stephanie Nosco: Go right into the grief. Okay, it’s too much. And that’s why the shen is leaving the body. It kind of is like, I can’t handle this right now.

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Stephanie Nosco: So when I’m working with people with grief, it is about, yes, it’s about supporting the lungs, because the lungs are going to be compromised.

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Stephanie Nosco: but it’s also about slowly inviting the Shen to come back into the heart, but then also giving it permission to leave.

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Nyk Danu Yoga: Yeah.

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Stephanie Nosco: And and like, I worked with someone just recently on this, she’s going through a painful separation. I said, No, like, it’s okay to distract yourself.

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Stephanie Nosco: Let your shen, let your mind leave your body, and then come in, and then go, and then come in.

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Stephanie Nosco: And so this is like working with the spirits really helped me to see this and that. It’s not always because you’re working with, you know the lungs and grief. It’s not always like you want to blast. Open your heart, or you don’t actually always want to be in your body. Sometimes you have to leave.

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Nyk Danu Yoga: Yeah, I think that sometimes, again, these things get oversimplified right? They get a little bit of information, and they.

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Stephanie Nosco: Yes.

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Nyk Danu Yoga: That like. Actually, this is a whole system, that all of the organs are working together.

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Stephanie Nosco: Hmm

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Nyk Danu Yoga: And even if you look at just kind of even pop psychology when they talk, I mean she’s she. They usually mentioned the stages of grief. But I’ve always been like that. Makes it sound like it’s a like a lateral.

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Stephanie Nosco: Line.

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Nyk Danu Yoga: It’s not. It’s a circle it’s like.

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Nyk Danu Yoga: and denial is one of them.

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Stephanie Nosco: Denial is one of them.

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Nyk Danu Yoga: You know, it’s like that. I this can’t be happening. I can’t believe that’s when that Shen is just like Nope, I’m out of here, this isn’t happening. This isn’t real. Yeah.

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Nyk Danu Yoga: yeah.

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Stephanie Nosco: And so, but also to work with it. Not being like we don’t actually have to force it back in right away. It’s like it takes a lot of gentleness, and then supporting the other organs right, supporting the kidneys and supporting the lungs. Yes, those things are important, but you have to look at it as a whole system.

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Nyk Danu Yoga: Yeah. And that’s I think you know. So my, my hope is that when when Yoga teachers hear this, that they realize that you know

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Nyk Danu Yoga: Try not to use

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Nyk Danu Yoga: tools that you don’t have in depth study with. You know

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Nyk Danu Yoga: you have a client who’s grieving.

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Nyk Danu Yoga: You don’t have to pull out your lung meridian knowledge. You can just pull out. I’m a human. I’ve lost something to a knowledge right.

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Nyk Danu Yoga: Yeah.

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Stephanie Nosco: Exactly, exactly.

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Nyk Danu Yoga: So you started studying. Did you start with kind of just mostly like the physical shapes of Qigong, and then move into kind of more medical? Or did you do it all together.

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Stephanie Nosco: I did it kind of altogether. I started with Wendy.

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Stephanie Nosco: you know, with the

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Stephanie Nosco: Wendy and Noelle lead, a

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Stephanie Nosco: kind of a 3 year program, and it was interrupted with Covid.

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Stephanie Nosco: But you begin learning forms. The Taoist. 5

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Stephanie Nosco: set of forms.

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Stephanie Nosco: Concurrently with learning about the physical, energetic, and spiritual aspects of the 5 viscera.

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Stephanie Nosco: the organs.

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Stephanie Nosco: And you’re also learning treatments. And so it kind of all happens at one time.

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Nyk Danu Yoga: Beautiful.

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Stephanie Nosco: And at the same time I was

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Stephanie Nosco: also kind of dabbling in other forms of Qigong with different teachers. There’s a great teacher, Master Helen Liang in Vancouver

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Stephanie Nosco: that I was working with. So I was just kind of pulling from.

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Stephanie Nosco: I guess.

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Stephanie Nosco: different areas. And like looking at this

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Stephanie Nosco: subject of Qigong, the way you would look at a crystal from many angles. And so beautiful, yeah, yeah.

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Nyk Danu Yoga: Yeah.

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Nyk Danu Yoga: I’ve done not a lot, but mostly

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Nyk Danu Yoga: other than that one medical Qigong session. I’ve done mostly sort of the physical shapes of the Qigong and

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Nyk Danu Yoga: I really really love them, because.

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Nyk Danu Yoga: as someone who’s been doing practicing yoga a long time.

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Nyk Danu Yoga: I found that. Well, 1st of all I found when I started doing Qigong in college.

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Nyk Danu Yoga: My Qigong teacher kept telling me to shorten my stance.

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Nyk Danu Yoga: because, of course, you know, as Yogis, we’re like

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Nyk Danu Yoga: long warrior strides, and like all these, and he’s like, no, no, no! Like shorter like you’re you’re not. You don’t have stability there, you know, like, bring your legs in, bring your legs in. And that was, that was a big, light bulb to be able to

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Nyk Danu Yoga: to do these practices

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Nyk Danu Yoga: of of Qigong in a way that I was never going to my extreme, ever.

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Nyk Danu Yoga: I was never from the outside. If I was watching myself looking like I was exerting or challenging myself, like I would in a physical Asana practice, especially those that are listening that come from these really strong physical practices. Like Ashtanga and Vinyasa, there was never any of that kind of

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Nyk Danu Yoga: efforting.

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Nyk Danu Yoga: and yet I would get so warm like there was times where I’d be doing it, I’d be like, Oh, and this shirt’s coming off and like, how am I getting so warm when I’ve it’s, you know, to a yogi’s eye I’ve barely moved.

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Stephanie Nosco: Move.

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Nyk Danu Yoga: No.

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Nyk Danu Yoga: Yeah.

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Stephanie Nosco: And I think that’s 1 of the reasons I fell in love with Qigong, and why I also found it so challenging was, it was like, Okay, yin Yoga forced me.

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Stephanie Nosco: Forced me. That’s a harsh way to say it, but encouraged me to stop running.

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Stephanie Nosco: But now Qigong was like, Okay, now, can you move your body without over efforting.

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Stephanie Nosco: like.

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Nyk Danu Yoga: It’s hard to do when you’re used to other practices. Yeah.

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Stephanie Nosco: What my Qigong teacher is always says is, try easier. Where can you try easier and

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Stephanie Nosco: knowing like, when I 1st started practicing a lot of Qigong. The Standing Wuji

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Stephanie Nosco: was so hard for me. I was like shaking. I had to sit in a chair.

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Stephanie Nosco: and I thought like, Why is this hard for me. I’m an athlete.

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Nyk Danu Yoga: Move.

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Stephanie Nosco: Like I come from running background, you know, climbing. I was always very athletic, but to just stand so because my Chi, the Chi, and the bones like my Chi hadn’t built yet, and I hadn’t actually learned how to stack my bones so that I wasn’t over efforting just when I’m standing.

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Stephanie Nosco: It was such a.

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Stephanie Nosco: It was such an embodied

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Stephanie Nosco: Taoist practice, right? And the more I’m doing Qigong even now, like I’ve been reading and rereading different versions of the Tao te Ching, and think your Qigong practice is now you’re embodying the essence of the Tao te Ching right to to try without trying, like, what is that like.

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Nyk Danu Yoga: Yeah.

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Stephanie Nosco: and and the effect being so strong like like you said, like barely moving. And yet you’re breaking a sweat like, how can this even happen.

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Nyk Danu Yoga: And y’all just, you know, little Tmi here. I’m not a sweater.

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Stephanie Nosco: Yeah, me.

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Nyk Danu Yoga: Like. I’m 1 of those people that like I have to be working hard, or it’s gotta be real hot and humid out there for me to get sweaty. So if I’m doing a qigong practice, and I’m like, I’m get Dewey. That’s that’s why it stands out. It’s remarkable, because I’m like what the heck like.

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Nyk Danu Yoga: Have never sweat this much in such a

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Nyk Danu Yoga: gentle practice.

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Stephanie Nosco: Such a gentle practice.

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Stephanie Nosco: Yeah. So I just loved it. I love practicing it, love practicing it outside what I really found. And here I’m going to go into a bit of woo woo stuff here, please do.

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Stephanie Nosco: My life totally changed when I started practicing Qigong on an external level, you know, like

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Stephanie Nosco: who I was with, changed what kind of things I was doing in my life changed things. I would. I don’t want to use the word manifest, but my external life started to change so rapidly. When I started practicing Qigong it was almost as if I now started entering into a conversation

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Stephanie Nosco: with the universe. It was like as my vibration started to shift everything else in my world shifted too.

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Stephanie Nosco: Way faster than Yoga, and I don’t really know why.

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Stephanie Nosco: I think that Yoga is still a powerful way to move energy, but maybe it was the subtlety. Maybe it was the

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Stephanie Nosco: the

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Stephanie Nosco: kind of being in direct communication with

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Stephanie Nosco: these kind of more esoteric meditations and movements. I don’t really know how, why it happened.

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Stephanie Nosco: But my life changed rapidly after I started practicing Qigong.

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Stephanie Nosco: and

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Stephanie Nosco: I also started to open my eyes to more unseen realms like my intuition now is so on point to the point where, like my partner thinks I’m a little bit of a witch.

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Stephanie Nosco: There are some things where I’m like I don’t know. It’s people and and people come to me saying, Stephanie, I’m hearing things. I’m seeing things. I get these intuitions. I get these downloads, and I don’t know what’s happening. I’m like, you’re practicing Qigong like it’s it’s a weird. It’s like magic.

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Nyk Danu Yoga: It’s like clearing

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Nyk Danu Yoga: the the crud out of what.

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Stephanie Nosco: Yes.

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Nyk Danu Yoga: These pathways that were already there. Right? So it’s like when you clear these these channels. Then then what was there, as you’re, you know

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Nyk Danu Yoga: innate gift as being born as a human.

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Stephanie Nosco: Right.

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Nyk Danu Yoga: Actually can be used.

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Stephanie Nosco: Yes, and I think that the same can happen in things like Kundalini Yoga for me. Kundalini Yoga was just a bit too destabilizing. But it’s you’re doing the same thing. You’re clearing these main energetic highways that run from this. You know point of a thousand meetings at the Crown of the head all the way down to Hoiyin into the bubbling well, like you’re just more open and receptive energetically to what is in.

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Stephanie Nosco: I guess. Beyond the scene realms is what I want to say, yeah, yeah.

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Nyk Danu Yoga: Yeah.

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Nyk Danu Yoga: yeah.

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Nyk Danu Yoga: let’s talk about

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Nyk Danu Yoga: how you moved from.

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Nyk Danu Yoga: So you went to Yoga. You did your qigong. You got your. You did your. It was 4 years Qigong training.

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Stephanie Nosco: Yeah.

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Nyk Danu Yoga: Yeah.

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Stephanie Nosco: Yeah.

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Nyk Danu Yoga: Yeah. And then I want to hear. Now I want to start to dive into your book. So I want to hear now how? So I don’t even remember

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Nyk Danu Yoga: how I discovered you like. I’m sure it was on Instagram.

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Nyk Danu Yoga: but it couldn’t have just been cause. I don’t ever just sit on Instagram and search through stuff. So it must have been that someone that I know or follow shared your post, or something like that for me to end up

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Nyk Danu Yoga: clicking on it and then following you. And I’ve always really appreciated your. So if you’re you’re not following, or, by the way, y’all you should be

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Nyk Danu Yoga: I’ve always really appreciated your your social media presence and your graphics, and just the information that you share. And but I don’t remember how I found you. I honestly have no idea what the common thread was.

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Nyk Danu Yoga: But it’s been, I mean, I think we’ve been connected on Instagram for years now.

585
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Nyk Danu Yoga: And so when I saw that you had a book.

586
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Nyk Danu Yoga: I was very excited because I knew that it would be

587
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Nyk Danu Yoga: deep

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Nyk Danu Yoga: but accessible.

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Nyk Danu Yoga: And stunning, because that’s exactly how you represent on your social. You’re sharing these deep concepts. But you’re doing it in a way where it’s like, Oh.

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Nyk Danu Yoga: okay, I could try that. It’s not like, what? What did she just say?

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Nyk Danu Yoga: And then the graphics that you have are always just absolutely stunning. So I was. I just had a feeling. And then, when I saw the book, I’m holding it up again for those on Instagram, or who aren’t or sorry are on Youtube.

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Nyk Danu Yoga: even just in your images. I was like, Oh, my gosh! It’s beautiful! And then, when I opened it up and saw all of the color and the illustrations I was like, Oh, my gosh, it’s so beautiful! And then, of course, it’s also got a whole lot of substance. It’s not just pretty to look at, but at the same time it is pretty to look at.

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Stephanie Nosco: Yeah.

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Nyk Danu Yoga: Which I really, I’m a very visual person, and I’m very color orientated.

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Nyk Danu Yoga: Maybe that’s why my previous career I was a hair color expert. So I was a hairstylist, and maybe that’s

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Nyk Danu Yoga: you know, I don’t know. Maybe I had that before I became a hair color expert. And that’s why I became really obsessed with hair color as opposed to just cutting.

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Nyk Danu Yoga: Who knows but color for me is always something that will really draw me in. And this book

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Nyk Danu Yoga: is absolutely stunning.

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Stephanie Nosco: Cool color.

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Nyk Danu Yoga: Yeah. And so I would love to hear

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Nyk Danu Yoga: how this little beauty came about.

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Stephanie Nosco: Yeah, okay,

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Stephanie Nosco: So gosh, where’s how far back should I go?

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Nyk Danu Yoga: You can just do like a bullet bullet point.

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Stephanie Nosco: Sure. Okay. So I guess I I started writing on Instagram, I guess when Covid happened, I just started writing all of these things. All of these threads that I talked about. You know the Qigong, the psychotherapy, the 5 spirits work the Yin Yoga, the Qigong. I just started writing on my Instagram

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Stephanie Nosco: right around when Covid happened.

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Stephanie Nosco: and then I actually ended up losing my 1st Instagram account.

608
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Stephanie Nosco: I got hacked, and I lost my entire account, which was sad.

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Stephanie Nosco: So gosh, that would have been 2022. I was on a yeah, I was on a self retreat. I knew I wanted to read a book. When I came home after that self retreat my Instagram was gone, and I.

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Nyk Danu Yoga: Oh, I was like.

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Stephanie Nosco: There goes my business like it was really devastating.

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Nyk Danu Yoga: It would be, yeah. And I.

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Stephanie Nosco: Well, maybe I have this counseling degree. Maybe I’ll just be a counselor. And so I was kind of starting up my counseling business, and

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Stephanie Nosco: and so then, my.

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Stephanie Nosco: I think it was my good friend Christine. She’s like, just start again. She’s like, just

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Stephanie Nosco: just make an account with your name, because it used to be nosco yoga. I was like.

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Nyk Danu Yoga: And teachers.

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Stephanie Nosco: She’s like, just make an account with your name

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Stephanie Nosco: start again.

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Stephanie Nosco: So I did. But I had all this content that I’d written, and so I.

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Nyk Danu Yoga: And you still had it somewhere.

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Stephanie Nosco: I still had it, I saved it. Yeah.

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Nyk Danu Yoga: Because that’s my worst fear with that. Oh, and I bet.

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Stephanie Nosco: Touch wet.

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Nyk Danu Yoga: I say this is that I don’t like. I don’t save things really. I mean, I have some graphics and stuff, but like I don’t save my writing, or

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Nyk Danu Yoga: you know anything that’s posted on there. If it was gone it would be gone.

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Stephanie Nosco: Be gone, something to learn, because I did lose everything. I lost my Facebook and everything. So

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Stephanie Nosco: I started again. And it was like really slow. It was like one follower. It’s my mom.

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Stephanie Nosco: you know, you know, it was so hard. But I just posted all this old stuff like quite rapidly, and within a month I had over a hundred 1,000 followers like exploded

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Stephanie Nosco: Yoga. Glow reached out to me. They signed me on. I was like all of a sudden getting all these attention. All this attention from the world, like all of a sudden, people, are really into Qigong. And

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Stephanie Nosco: and what I’m writing like, people want this?

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Stephanie Nosco: Yeah,

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Stephanie Nosco: And so then

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Stephanie Nosco: I did a few other self retreats, one being an ayahuasca dieta, where? Yeah, it was very much a message that you know this book that I’m writing is really for the earth. And it was I wanted it to be rooted in ecology.

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Stephanie Nosco: And then I did a vision fast in 2,000 at the end of 2022

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Stephanie Nosco: with the Animus Valley Institute with Bill Plotkin’s work. He’s amazing if you don’t know who he is.

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Nyk Danu Yoga: Not heard of him.

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Stephanie Nosco: Craft really good. He’s an ecopsychologist. So I did a vision fast with the intention of listening to the earth. That was my thing is, I wanted to to fast, and just listen on the land to what it wanted to say.

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Stephanie Nosco: And I had a prayer. My prayer was, will this fast. Help me write the book.

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Stephanie Nosco: And when I got home after that vision fast.

641
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Stephanie Nosco: 2 separate publishers had written reached out to me, asking me to write a book proposal.

642
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Stephanie Nosco: So it was an invitation. It was invitation.

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Nyk Danu Yoga: Which almost never happens. Y’all, for those of you who think.

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Stephanie Nosco: It doesn’t. It’s not, you know.

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Nyk Danu Yoga: Yeah, very rarely does a publisher reach out to somebody and say, Hey, we’d like you to write something for us. Yeah.

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Stephanie Nosco: Yes, and both of them wanted it to be an illustrated book, both of them.

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Stephanie Nosco: which was weird. It was like.

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Stephanie Nosco: you know, that’s more expensive to write an illustrated book. And anyway, so that’s how it kind of came to be. And

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Stephanie Nosco: I I knew that I wanted to write on the psycho emotional aspects of the organs, and I knew I wanted it to be for the earth.

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Stephanie Nosco: And so yeah, it kind of took shape.

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Stephanie Nosco: Over the course of about a year.

652
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Stephanie Nosco: and just sitting in nature, and

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Stephanie Nosco: of course, really inspired by many different teachers and authors. And

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Stephanie Nosco: there it was.

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Nyk Danu Yoga: And were you pretty on the Dl. That you were writing a book? Because I don’t remember you saying I’m working on a book. It was just all of a sudden, like you’re sharing your material. And then all of a sudden, on Instagram Bam, here’s my published book. I was like what.

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Stephanie Nosco: Yeah.

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Nyk Danu Yoga: Yeah.

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Stephanie Nosco: Mentioned it, but I wasn’t overly public about it. Yeah, I wasn’t overly public about it. So

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Stephanie Nosco: yeah, when it.

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Nyk Danu Yoga: I think sometimes people are public about these things because they want the accountability.

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Stephanie Nosco: Yeah.

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Nyk Danu Yoga: But it sounded like you obviously didn’t need that. Like, some people are like, I’m writing a book. They keep saying it so that people are like, Hey, how’s that book you’re writing, you know, so that they they kind of have to like

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Nyk Danu Yoga: put their stake in the ground and say, I’m doing this thing. But you obviously did not need that.

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Stephanie Nosco: Well.

665
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Stephanie Nosco: I really do feel like this book wanted to come through. And

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Stephanie Nosco: one thing that my teacher, Lori said is like no one. No one is going to write the book that you’re meant to write, and.

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Nyk Danu Yoga: 100%.

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Stephanie Nosco: Think that everybody has a book in them, and it’s just a matter of

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Stephanie Nosco: sitting down and doing it.

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Nyk Danu Yoga: Yeah.

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Stephanie Nosco: Honestly and and for me, having the accountability of a publisher and deadlines that really helped.

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Nyk Danu Yoga: Yes.

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Stephanie Nosco: And and

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Stephanie Nosco: and

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Stephanie Nosco: it’s kind of funny how the book is called Follow your Dao, because

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Stephanie Nosco: in writing this book I think I really found my own voice. It’s

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Stephanie Nosco: oftentimes. And this is actually a good message for Yoga teachers, too. Oftentimes we take a course, or we listen to a, podcast and we want to replicate in some way what.

678
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Stephanie Nosco: What another person is saying, because it’s like, oh, they said it so it’s valid.

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Stephanie Nosco: But the book really challenged me to find my own voice, and

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Stephanie Nosco: there’s a level of vulnerability, I think, in that. And I will say that writing this book was

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Stephanie Nosco: was one of the more vulnerable things I’ve ever done in my life so.

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Nyk Danu Yoga: I think every author would probably agree. Yeah.

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Nyk Danu Yoga: on that note. I have some questions and some and some thoughts. If you don’t mind.

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Stephanie Nosco: Sure. Yeah, of course.

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Nyk Danu Yoga: I know you talk in the beginning of the book about how

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Nyk Danu Yoga: a lot of a lot of this book is based directly on what you’ve learned from your teachers, but that there also is a little bit of your own

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Nyk Danu Yoga: interpretation, your own spirit in it, which, of course, there has to be, especially with something as ancient as Chinese medicine, where we don’t have all the answers. So there’s a couple of things that stood out to me.

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Nyk Danu Yoga: just because I’m a nerd. Yes.

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Stephanie Nosco: Please.

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Nyk Danu Yoga: Somebody else may not have may not have noticed.

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Stephanie Nosco: Noticed.

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Nyk Danu Yoga: I noticed that you didn’t mention the pericardium and the sanjao.

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Nyk Danu Yoga: and I’m wondering why that might be.

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Stephanie Nosco: Oh.

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Nyk Danu Yoga: Were you trying to keep it? More sort of

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Nyk Danu Yoga: concrete organ, based as opposed to these more kind of vague

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Nyk Danu Yoga: concepts.

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Stephanie Nosco: So this is the thing about writing a book.

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Stephanie Nosco: You only get a certain amount of pages.

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Stephanie Nosco: I wrote 90,000 words.

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Nyk Danu Yoga: This book is on.

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Stephanie Nosco: This book is only 55,000.

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Stephanie Nosco: So what I will say is the pericardium and the sanjao didn’t make the cut.

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Nyk Danu Yoga: I gotcha.

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Stephanie Nosco: So that’s for the next book. I have already a second book idea. I think that the heart.

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Stephanie Nosco: because the heart is where the spirit resides.

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Nyk Danu Yoga: Yeah.

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Stephanie Nosco: Where actually all of them reside, is in the heart. The heart could be its own book.

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Nyk Danu Yoga: 100%.

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Stephanie Nosco: So that’s simply it. It’s just it didn’t make the cut. I think that there is a little tiny bit on the sanjao and the pericardium in the section on boundaries.

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Nyk Danu Yoga: Yeah, you do cut. You mentioned them.

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Stephanie Nosco: Varied.

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Nyk Danu Yoga: Kind of wink wink towards them. Yeah, yeah, which was.

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Stephanie Nosco: But I was like.

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Nyk Danu Yoga: Yeah, they are.

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Stephanie Nosco: Exactly, but I didn’t include them in the chapters, because I did want the book to

717
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Stephanie Nosco: to follow the elements and the spirits. And so, because the San Jo and the Triple Wormer are really in support of

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Stephanie Nosco: the spirit of the Shen, I felt that it didn’t deserve its own chapter. Does that make sense.

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Nyk Danu Yoga: Totally yeah.

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Nyk Danu Yoga: And then the other thing that stood out to me

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Nyk Danu Yoga: is that you mentioned when you’re in the lungs.

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Nyk Danu Yoga: You mentioned the lung as an as a

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Nyk Danu Yoga: a lower spirit. I think.

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Stephanie Nosco: Yeah, yeah.

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Nyk Danu Yoga: And I was like

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Nyk Danu Yoga: I’ve never, ever thought of the lungs as I’ve always thought of them as an upper.

727
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Stephanie Nosco: Right.

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Nyk Danu Yoga: That was intriguing.

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Stephanie Nosco: They live in the they live in the, you know this upper jowl.

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Nyk Danu Yoga: Upper. Chow, yeah.

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Stephanie Nosco: Yeah, but the the lungs themselves, and the Po soul belongs to the underworld. It’s an it’s an

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Stephanie Nosco: it’s a it’s the spirit of the body right? So we have the 2 spirits

733
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Stephanie Nosco: that are the upper spirits, the Shen being the most young. So if you think of fire being very young.

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Stephanie Nosco: It’s very flighty. It’s the light of our awareness. Then that comes down and kind of becomes a bit more dense into the Hun, which is about dreaming. So then it’s going to take that insight and the awareness, and like piece it together into into dreams and plans.

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Nyk Danu Yoga: And then you go.

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Stephanie Nosco: Down into earth and earth is about. Okay. Well, now, what are you going to do about it? What are those little things like where rubber meets the road.

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Stephanie Nosco: and now the lungs. When you go down into the lungs, the lungs represent, like

738
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Stephanie Nosco: our

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Stephanie Nosco: bodies, and personal, unconscious

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Stephanie Nosco: habit patterns.

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Nyk Danu Yoga: Gotcha.

742
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Stephanie Nosco: Then the alarm goes off to do your meditation, or to write your book, or whatever you’re doing, and the pose like. Oh, I don’t know if I can.

743
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Stephanie Nosco: This is where the demons live.

744
01:04:20.450 –> 01:04:20.890
Nyk Danu Yoga: Is actually.

745
01:04:20.890 –> 01:04:33.130
Stephanie Nosco: In the lungs. Yeah, and not in the lungs as in the physical lung, but in the spirit of the lung. And we have to remember, too, the lung is in the Soma. The lung is represented in the whole soma, and the skin.

746
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Nyk Danu Yoga: Yeah.

747
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Stephanie Nosco: So. So yeah, it’s a lower spirit. And then the zhe is the very bottom of the deep, unconscious. It’s the collective, unconscious, and the knowing in our bones.

748
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Nyk Danu Yoga: Interesting.

749
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Stephanie Nosco: Hmm.

750
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Nyk Danu Yoga: It was this part here that I just wanted to read

751
01:05:02.520 –> 01:05:03.900
Nyk Danu Yoga: about the shen

752
01:05:04.370 –> 01:05:05.590
Nyk Danu Yoga: and the bird.

753
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Stephanie Nosco: Yeah.

754
01:05:06.550 –> 01:05:08.709
Nyk Danu Yoga: I don’t want to read the whole passage, though, because

755
01:05:09.220 –> 01:05:10.480
Nyk Danu Yoga: that would be long.

756
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Nyk Danu Yoga: this part

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Nyk Danu Yoga: like the little red bird, the Shen is able to intermittently venture out and return.

758
01:05:20.660 –> 01:05:25.180
Nyk Danu Yoga: creating a balanced rhythm of connection and retreat.

759
01:05:25.520 –> 01:05:39.440
Nyk Danu Yoga: Through this dynamic the heart is able to express itself authentically, seek meaningful connections and at the same time maintain its autonomy. It’s a beautiful metaphor for the dance that the heart performs.

760
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Nyk Danu Yoga: seeking both connection and retreat.

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Nyk Danu Yoga: I love that. And I’ll tell you why. Because often when you hear about and and this will be a podcast for a whole, other episode, some other time. But when you hear about you know each of us have all 5 of the spirits in us, but that some people tend to be more fire. Some people tend to be more wood, and whenever you hear about fire people.

762
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Nyk Danu Yoga: Oftentimes there’s this idea of fire. People are like the forever extrovert. They’re like, always want to be around people. They always, you know, kind of need that

763
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Nyk Danu Yoga: that kind of like when they’re. I’ve even read one book where they were like. When fire people are alone, they don’t have joy. So I loved this reference that you made here about

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Nyk Danu Yoga: this ability

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Nyk Danu Yoga: to be able to do connection and retreat.

766
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Stephanie Nosco: Treat.

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Nyk Danu Yoga: And this is what I’m always trying to teach my students that are

768
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Nyk Danu Yoga: the summer bunnies. You know the ones that just live all year for summer, and they go to every festival, and they do all the things. And la, la! It’s like, Whoa! Whoa! Whoa, yeah.

769
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Nyk Danu Yoga: But you you can burn yourself out here, little flame like we need to also pull in and have quiet time. So I just thought that was

770
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Nyk Danu Yoga: a beautiful way to put it.

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Stephanie Nosco: – love.

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Nyk Danu Yoga: That.

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Stephanie Nosco: Yeah. Because if there’s no retreat also, as then, we’re we’re a bit confused about what our truth is versus another’s right, that like seeking external validation.

774
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Stephanie Nosco: Yeah.

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Stephanie Nosco: yeah, it definitely is that balance between out and in.

776
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Nyk Danu Yoga: Yeah. The only way that you can know if it’s your own

777
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Nyk Danu Yoga: sovereign heart speaking is, if you actually spend time

778
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Nyk Danu Yoga: quietly with your own sovereign heart. Yeah.

779
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Nyk Danu Yoga: Wish I would. I mean, my wish for the world. Is that more people

780
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Nyk Danu Yoga: do that?

781
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Nyk Danu Yoga: Because I think there’s so much of people. Just adopting what everybody else is saying and thinking, and you know not.

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Stephanie Nosco: Yeah, and that’s.

783
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Nyk Danu Yoga: Does this resonate for me.

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Stephanie Nosco: Exactly. And it’s, you know, because that’s what the Shen wants to do. It wants to reach out to connect

785
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Stephanie Nosco: but

786
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Stephanie Nosco: what I’ve been sitting with is when we can maintain our autonomy

787
01:07:50.910 –> 01:07:53.809
Stephanie Nosco: that actually leads to more authentic connection.

788
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Nyk Danu Yoga: Because.

789
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Stephanie Nosco: There’s a difference between me and you. If I was you and you were me, then there would be nothing to connect.

790
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Nyk Danu Yoga: And authentic connection, as opposed to just.

791
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Stephanie Nosco: Exactly.

792
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Nyk Danu Yoga: Showing up in body

793
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Nyk Danu Yoga: and not in in spirit.

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Nyk Danu Yoga: Yeah, beautiful.

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Nyk Danu Yoga: A couple of other things that I noticed that were just different from what I have

796
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Nyk Danu Yoga: have learned is that

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Nyk Danu Yoga: did you put courage with the lung? You did right.

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Nyk Danu Yoga: And I’ve always learned it as the gallbladder.

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Stephanie Nosco: It can be both. Yeah, I think that’s.

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Nyk Danu Yoga: But when you’re talking about this deeper aspect of the lung, it makes a lot of sense to me like, because at first, st when I saw it. I was like, Oh, that’s interesting. But then, when I read the chapter, it was like, Okay, I see what you mean by

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Nyk Danu Yoga: the sort of depth

802
01:08:43.680 –> 01:08:47.180
Nyk Danu Yoga: of the lungs and the sort of shadow. And the yeah.

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Stephanie Nosco: And being willing to face. Yeah, being willing to face shadow, being willing also to put everything on the line to stand up for what you believe in, and what you value.

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Nyk Danu Yoga: It’s more of like that inner resolve and courage, whereas I feel like sometimes gallbladder is more of that like charge, kind of courage.

805
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Stephanie Nosco: Goes to that? Yeah.

806
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Nyk Danu Yoga: Yeah, yeah.

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Stephanie Nosco: Yeah, I’m gonna have the courage to follow my dreams.

808
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Nyk Danu Yoga: Yes.

809
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Stephanie Nosco: Would be more liver versus I’m going to have the courage to dig into the unconscious of my past, so that I can act out of greatest integrity.

810
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Nyk Danu Yoga: That’s be long.

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Stephanie Nosco: That. Yeah.

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Nyk Danu Yoga: Sense.

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Stephanie Nosco: And a lot of these, you see, as both like, you know, there’s somebody said, Oh, what’s the difference between the compassion of the liver, and the sympathy of the spleen.

814
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Nyk Danu Yoga: Hmm good question.

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Stephanie Nosco: And then somebody said, Well, what’s the difference? Like I put? I think I put love once underneath the liver, and people was like, well, where’s in that heart?

816
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Stephanie Nosco: And then I realized, I’m like, love can actually be expressed through all of the organisms.

817
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Nyk Danu Yoga: Yes.

818
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Stephanie Nosco: Right. Like to be safe would be like the wish of the kidneys, and to be

819
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Stephanie Nosco: to to be free from harm would be that the wish of the liver, and to be nourished would be that of the spleen.

820
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Nyk Danu Yoga: Yeah.

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Stephanie Nosco: To live in integrity. Right? So they all have virtue, and they’re.

822
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Nyk Danu Yoga: It’s almost like each organ has its own love language.

823
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Stephanie Nosco: Yes, exactly. I love that.

824
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Nyk Danu Yoga: Yeah.

825
01:10:08.140 –> 01:10:15.929
Stephanie Nosco: Each organ has its own level. But you do see crossover, and there is like obviously room for poetic interpretation in all of it.

826
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Nyk Danu Yoga: This is this other part that I wanted to read because I was just like

827
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Nyk Danu Yoga: I mean, you couldn’t see it because you weren’t with me, but I was like shouting from the rooftops as I read this.

828
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Nyk Danu Yoga: This is from fear to faith, it’s

829
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Nyk Danu Yoga: Lastly, one of the fastest ways to deplete your jing is by striving to be someone you are not.

830
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Stephanie Nosco: Hmm.

831
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Nyk Danu Yoga: This could show up in trying to change your core personality traits to fit into a certain relationship or career or doing activities that air quotes should be healthy.

832
01:10:46.500 –> 01:10:49.550
Nyk Danu Yoga: but that you just really don’t have an affinity, for

833
01:10:49.810 –> 01:10:54.849
Nyk Danu Yoga: if you don’t love yourself, you might feel like you have to take up another expression.

834
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Nyk Danu Yoga: but the consequence.

835
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Nyk Danu Yoga: the extra energy needed will drain your life force in the same way that overwork will.

836
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Stephanie Nosco: Hmm.

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Nyk Danu Yoga: I was like, can we just put that on a billboard, please?

838
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Nyk Danu Yoga: So that one, I just yeah, really, really, really stood out because I work so much with Yoga teachers.

839
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Nyk Danu Yoga: both in training them again, but also in business mentorship. And I see this come up so often.

840
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Nyk Danu Yoga: and I understand that when you’re a brand new teacher.

841
01:11:26.050 –> 01:11:28.860
Nyk Danu Yoga: maybe you’re new, and so you are kind of like

842
01:11:29.850 –> 01:11:32.879
Nyk Danu Yoga: parroting what your teachers have said, you know.

843
01:11:33.190 –> 01:11:34.620
Nyk Danu Yoga: But at a point

844
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Nyk Danu Yoga: you have to start to speak from from your own essence, your own essence, your own

845
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Nyk Danu Yoga: experience. I remember one of my teachers

846
01:11:44.880 –> 01:11:50.049
Nyk Danu Yoga: told me this at my very 1st teacher training, and it’s the thing they say at the beginning of every teacher training, that I do

847
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Nyk Danu Yoga: some of the things that I say here.

848
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Nyk Danu Yoga: Well, I don’t like to use the word trigger, because I feel it’s so overused right now.

849
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Nyk Danu Yoga: you know, may push a button. Let’s put it that way.

850
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Nyk Danu Yoga: In this course.

851
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Nyk Danu Yoga: and when it does, pause and investigate that.

852
01:12:06.520 –> 01:12:13.380
Nyk Danu Yoga: so before you push it away? No, no, no, that’s not right, because it doesn’t fit with what I believed before I walked in this room.

853
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Nyk Danu Yoga: but also

854
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Nyk Danu Yoga: you know, don’t automatically accept what I say, because it might not be your truth. So she always said, Question it.

855
01:12:23.340 –> 01:12:27.790
Nyk Danu Yoga: Does this feel true if I get still and quiet with myself.

856
01:12:28.020 –> 01:12:31.749
Nyk Danu Yoga: even though this thing kind of went, push my button or tweaked me.

857
01:12:32.390 –> 01:12:33.870
Nyk Danu Yoga: Does it feel true?

858
01:12:34.280 –> 01:12:37.750
Nyk Danu Yoga: Is there a truth there? And if so.

859
01:12:37.880 –> 01:12:39.740
Nyk Danu Yoga: now you get to go investigate that?

860
01:12:39.770 –> 01:12:44.840
Nyk Danu Yoga: And why did that poke that button. Then, if this is true, if it doesn’t, she said.

861
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Nyk Danu Yoga: get rid of it, it’s not yours. It’s not for you.

862
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Nyk Danu Yoga: And so I think that that quote really kind of hit that nail for me. I was like, Wow.

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Nyk Danu Yoga: yeah. So I would love that to be something that all teachers do. You know I often joke with my I did it just this last weekend when I was with my teacher trainings, I said. You know there’s no right or wrong way to sequence in.

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Nyk Danu Yoga: However, for your next assignment

865
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Nyk Danu Yoga: there is a right or wrong way, and then what you do when you’re out of this program, just party on with yourself. As long as you’re being conscious and intentional and thoughtful about it, you know as long as you’re taking that time to pause and to listen before you. You know.

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Nyk Danu Yoga: yeah, it it I mean, we. We’re in such a world right now in general, of people not

867
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Nyk Danu Yoga: being

868
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Nyk Danu Yoga: authentic.

869
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Nyk Danu Yoga: I mean the fear of cancel culture alone for people is, I mean, people are so afraid to speak their truth right now.

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Stephanie Nosco: Yes, and.

871
01:13:42.920 –> 01:13:44.730
Nyk Danu Yoga: And understandably. Yes.

872
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Stephanie Nosco: And I think it’s hard to hear the truth.

873
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Stephanie Nosco: because the Shen is going out. The Shen is going out to find it somewhere else. Yes, so yes, we want to listen. And you bring up such a good point. You know it’s like the point of a teacher is to disrupt your current worldview.

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Nyk Danu Yoga: 100%.

875
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Stephanie Nosco: And to shake it up in there. But then, at the end of the day you have to listen.

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Stephanie Nosco: and that that what I just said earlier about how do we know what the masters taught is correct? Right? If all of this is.

877
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Stephanie Nosco: you know, hearsay from history books, which was, by the way, written by him.

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Stephanie Nosco: Right? A lot of this is from the patriarchy. So it’s like, we’re sifting through all of these teachings.

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Stephanie Nosco: Okay, we take the teaching in, let it disrupt the world, our worldview, and then from that place of experience and practice, and how it’s actually landed in our life. Then from there we find

880
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Stephanie Nosco: our true voice.

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Nyk Danu Yoga: Yeah.

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01:14:37.670 –> 01:14:41.909
Stephanie Nosco: But we actually have to practice it. First, st we have to practice something we have to let.

883
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Nyk Danu Yoga: Such a.

884
01:14:42.310 –> 01:14:43.749
Stephanie Nosco: Be disrupted, and people.

885
01:14:43.750 –> 01:14:45.309
Nyk Danu Yoga: In such a rush to find that.

886
01:14:45.310 –> 01:14:46.510
Stephanie Nosco: Right. But that’s right.

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Nyk Danu Yoga: I am.

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Stephanie Nosco: It takes time, and that’s the wisdom of the kidneys. Right is.

889
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Nyk Danu Yoga: Yes.

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Stephanie Nosco: The time to let things land to practice them.

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Stephanie Nosco: And then it’s like the another thing about the kidneys is. It’s about divine timing. So it’s about

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Stephanie Nosco: aligning Heaven’s will with personal will, like people. Think of the the spirit of the kidneys is called the right, and it means will, but it’s really about aligning this greater will of of heaven. But it’s also of earth.

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Nyk Danu Yoga: In? Who.

894
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Stephanie Nosco: We’re meant to be my teacher. Lori calls it this intellicy

895
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Stephanie Nosco: who we’re meant to grow into on a very physical level like there’s physical energy to go in certain directions, like some people. Just have a natural affinity for certain things, and that’s.

896
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Nyk Danu Yoga: Also.

897
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Stephanie Nosco: Body thing.

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01:15:32.340 –> 01:15:37.619
Stephanie Nosco: but it’s matching that will with the will of of the of timing

899
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Stephanie Nosco: place of situations. It’s it’s really, and it takes patience. It’s so. You’re both.

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Nyk Danu Yoga: Is a perfect example of that.

901
01:15:47.090 –> 01:15:47.670
Stephanie Nosco: Yes.

902
01:15:48.000 –> 01:15:49.469
Nyk Danu Yoga: You know you went away.

903
01:15:49.500 –> 01:15:54.399
Nyk Danu Yoga: You dove deep. You kind of had this like. I’d like to write a book thing in your head.

904
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Nyk Danu Yoga: You came home, and the universe was like, Hey, here’s a couple of opportunities. Choose one.

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Stephanie Nosco: Right, and then on my yi spirit, the ye being about.

906
01:16:03.880 –> 01:16:10.839
Stephanie Nosco: you know, day in and day out, getting up and doing the thing, even though you don’t feel like doing it. That was very much involved. Right? I had to like.

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Stephanie Nosco: write the to-do lists and follow through on those actions. Yeah, the ye and the stomach and spleen is very much about devotion. It takes an incredible amount of devotion to manifest anything in our life.

908
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Nyk Danu Yoga: Yes, and.

909
01:16:21.570 –> 01:16:26.299
Stephanie Nosco: Then, of course, then my lung spirit was like, Oh, my gosh! I’m an imposter!

910
01:16:26.540 –> 01:16:27.120
Nyk Danu Yoga: I can’t do.

911
01:16:27.120 –> 01:16:29.479
Stephanie Nosco: This right. It’s all the demons that come up around.

912
01:16:29.480 –> 01:16:29.950
Nyk Danu Yoga: Yes.

913
01:16:29.950 –> 01:16:35.440
Stephanie Nosco: Worth issues. And you know, so it was funny in the experience of writing the book.

914
01:16:35.780 –> 01:16:42.760
Stephanie Nosco: I really, I really got to live through all of the all of the spirits right? It felt like I was in.

915
01:16:43.050 –> 01:16:45.790
Stephanie Nosco: It. Felt like the book was writing me in some ways.

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Nyk Danu Yoga: I don’t know if you had this fear. I know that I always have this fear about

917
01:16:50.500 –> 01:16:53.199
Nyk Danu Yoga: sitting down and finally getting a book done

918
01:16:53.920 –> 01:16:58.619
Nyk Danu Yoga: it because I’m always an ever-growing, changing, learning being.

919
01:16:58.660 –> 01:17:00.340
Nyk Danu Yoga: I’m often afraid that

920
01:17:00.420 –> 01:17:03.059
Nyk Danu Yoga: what if what I put on paper now

921
01:17:03.310 –> 01:17:19.359
Nyk Danu Yoga: 5 years from now? I’m like that’s not how I would have said that, actually, or hmm! I don’t really know if I believe that anymore, or hmm, that probably was, you know, not the best way to put that or something like that. And I and I mean so I don’t really have like

922
01:17:19.660 –> 01:17:23.529
Nyk Danu Yoga: a feeling often of imposter syndrome, but I do have a feeling of like

923
01:17:23.700 –> 01:17:25.110
Nyk Danu Yoga: once. This is

924
01:17:25.410 –> 01:17:27.220
Nyk Danu Yoga: here in print.

925
01:17:27.470 –> 01:17:28.820
Nyk Danu Yoga: that’s forever.

926
01:17:29.270 –> 01:17:33.700
Nyk Danu Yoga: And what happens if you know, if you’re lucky enough as an author.

927
01:17:33.750 –> 01:17:42.939
Nyk Danu Yoga: 10 years later. Your publisher says your book did so. Well, do you want to do like an updated kind of right? And then you then you have that opportunity. But for a lot of books

928
01:17:43.040 –> 01:17:47.350
Nyk Danu Yoga: you never do right. So, for example, one small example might be

929
01:17:47.590 –> 01:17:51.299
Nyk Danu Yoga: me really diving deep, currently right now into

930
01:17:52.092 –> 01:17:54.779
Nyk Danu Yoga: Chinese medicine versus Tcm.

931
01:17:55.110 –> 01:18:08.930
Nyk Danu Yoga: And they’re already looking at my manual and going. Oh, there’s some tweaks I want to make there, now that I have this broader understanding. And I just think that’s gonna happen for my whole life, because I’m a nerd, and I always wanna learn more and grow more. And you know.

932
01:18:09.175 –> 01:18:14.354
Nyk Danu Yoga: So did you have any of that fear coming up where it was like? Oh, now this is in right in writing.

933
01:18:14.590 –> 01:18:18.109
Stephanie Nosco: Yeah, I mean, I have that right now, like I already have that. I’m like.

934
01:18:18.110 –> 01:18:18.440
Nyk Danu Yoga: Yeah.

935
01:18:18.440 –> 01:18:23.190
Stephanie Nosco: Written that differently. Yeah. So I think I think it’s taking the pressure off of your book.

936
01:18:23.250 –> 01:18:25.680
Stephanie Nosco: especially your 1st book doesn’t have to be

937
01:18:25.740 –> 01:18:33.209
Stephanie Nosco: everything. Yeah, it’s just represents a small sliver of where you are in your process. And knowing that that

938
01:18:33.350 –> 01:18:37.090
Stephanie Nosco: place in your process might help people

939
01:18:37.180 –> 01:18:43.150
Stephanie Nosco: right? Because, you know, now I’m here in a little bit later on in my process. But there’s a lot of people that

940
01:18:43.200 –> 01:18:45.089
Stephanie Nosco: maybe are where I was.

941
01:18:45.430 –> 01:18:51.730
Stephanie Nosco: and that that place will reach people and help people. And then there’s the next thing. Then there’s the next book.

942
01:18:51.730 –> 01:18:54.780
Nyk Danu Yoga: The next book exactly the next course. The next. Yeah.

943
01:18:55.139 –> 01:18:56.579
Stephanie Nosco: Yeah, yeah. So it’s

944
01:18:56.840 –> 01:18:59.075
Stephanie Nosco: yeah, there’s definitely

945
01:19:00.190 –> 01:19:03.360
Stephanie Nosco: I would highly recommend the experience of writing a book was

946
01:19:03.540 –> 01:19:05.710
Stephanie Nosco: transformative on a personal level for me.

947
01:19:05.710 –> 01:19:06.360
Nyk Danu Yoga: Yeah.

948
01:19:07.540 –> 01:19:10.090
Nyk Danu Yoga: I think maybe we’ll slowly start to wrap things up.

949
01:19:10.090 –> 01:19:10.670
Stephanie Nosco: Sure.

950
01:19:10.670 –> 01:19:20.319
Nyk Danu Yoga: I would love to do some icebreaker questions with you, but I do always to close with guests, and then, after that, I’d love for you to share your parting prayer. That’s in the book.

951
01:19:20.320 –> 01:19:22.229
Stephanie Nosco: Sure if you don’t mind reading it. Yeah, of course.

952
01:19:22.230 –> 01:19:23.410
Nyk Danu Yoga: It’s so lovely.

953
01:19:23.440 –> 01:19:28.729
Nyk Danu Yoga: Okay? So some of these questions are light, and some of them are, you know, slightly more

954
01:19:28.740 –> 01:19:31.439
Nyk Danu Yoga: soulful. Of course no right or wrong, answers

955
01:19:31.570 –> 01:19:33.159
Nyk Danu Yoga: coffee or tea.

956
01:19:35.570 –> 01:19:36.910
Stephanie Nosco: How do I choose?

957
01:19:37.410 –> 01:19:38.850
Nyk Danu Yoga: Oh, I can’t think.

958
01:19:38.850 –> 01:19:46.930
Stephanie Nosco: Oh, gosh! So I actually practiced Taiwanese like a form of tea service Chinese tea service. So I think I’d have to say tea.

959
01:19:46.930 –> 01:19:47.570
Nyk Danu Yoga: Okay.

960
01:19:47.570 –> 01:19:47.990
Stephanie Nosco: Yeah.

961
01:19:47.990 –> 01:19:51.069
Nyk Danu Yoga: I know that one was actually impossible for me as well to choose.

962
01:19:51.070 –> 01:19:53.220
Stephanie Nosco: And but I also love coffee. I love both of them.

963
01:19:53.220 –> 01:19:55.919
Nyk Danu Yoga: The answer is, it depends depends

964
01:19:56.370 –> 01:20:01.419
Nyk Danu Yoga: favorite ice cream flavor. Now, I realize in Tcm, we don’t eat a lot of cool things. But just imagine.

965
01:20:01.730 –> 01:20:04.290
Stephanie Nosco: Oh, oh.

966
01:20:09.040 –> 01:20:11.869
Stephanie Nosco: I don’t have to say just a regular vanilla.

967
01:20:12.300 –> 01:20:13.000
Nyk Danu Yoga: Nice.

968
01:20:13.330 –> 01:20:13.950
Stephanie Nosco: Yeah.

969
01:20:15.330 –> 01:20:18.209
Nyk Danu Yoga: One thing people often get wrong about me.

970
01:20:19.040 –> 01:20:19.860
Stephanie Nosco: Hmm!

971
01:20:20.550 –> 01:20:21.530
Stephanie Nosco: My height.

972
01:20:22.440 –> 01:20:23.070
Nyk Danu Yoga: Nice.

973
01:20:23.070 –> 01:20:32.570
Stephanie Nosco: Yeah, a lot of people they meet me like in person after, like, you know, following me on Instagram or on my glow classes. And they’re like, I always thought you’d be taller.

974
01:20:32.570 –> 01:20:34.000
Nyk Danu Yoga: I get that all the time, too.

975
01:20:34.000 –> 01:20:34.610
Stephanie Nosco: Yeah.

976
01:20:34.920 –> 01:20:36.780
Nyk Danu Yoga: I think somehow, in people’s

977
01:20:36.860 –> 01:20:41.290
Nyk Danu Yoga: minds, if you’re, you know, if you’re intelligent and confident, they just think you’re taller.

978
01:20:41.290 –> 01:20:49.109
Stephanie Nosco: Yeah, yeah, even my, even my husband. We were dating for like 6 months. And he’s like, What are you? 5, 7. And I was like No.

979
01:20:49.430 –> 01:20:53.230
Stephanie Nosco: 5, 3 on a good day.

980
01:20:53.502 –> 01:20:54.320
Nyk Danu Yoga: Standing up straight.

981
01:20:54.320 –> 01:20:54.960
Stephanie Nosco: Yeah.

982
01:20:55.762 –> 01:21:00.119
Nyk Danu Yoga: When I’m not practicing Qigong. I am.

983
01:21:00.740 –> 01:21:01.990
Stephanie Nosco: Oh!

984
01:21:04.360 –> 01:21:06.159
Stephanie Nosco: Walking in the forest.

985
01:21:06.160 –> 01:21:07.020
Nyk Danu Yoga: Excellent.

986
01:21:07.800 –> 01:21:09.610
Nyk Danu Yoga: Do you have a pop culture, vice.

987
01:21:09.800 –> 01:21:12.630
Nyk Danu Yoga: a book series, a show, a movie series, something that you.

988
01:21:12.630 –> 01:21:13.170
Stephanie Nosco: Oh no!

989
01:21:13.170 –> 01:21:14.170
Nyk Danu Yoga: But resist.

990
01:21:15.270 –> 01:21:19.849
Stephanie Nosco: Okay, this is kind of a weird one. The last avatar.

991
01:21:20.490 –> 01:21:21.390
Nyk Danu Yoga: Hmm.

992
01:21:21.390 –> 01:21:23.659
Stephanie Nosco: You know that show is like a cartoon.

993
01:21:23.820 –> 01:21:25.050
Nyk Danu Yoga: I haven’t seen it, but oh, my God!

994
01:21:25.050 –> 01:21:27.720
Stephanie Nosco: You’d like it. It’s like this cartoon with like

995
01:21:27.750 –> 01:21:29.557
Stephanie Nosco: like the different

996
01:21:31.180 –> 01:21:33.380
Stephanie Nosco: they’re like different tribes of the elements.

997
01:21:33.570 –> 01:21:34.670
Nyk Danu Yoga: Oh, cool!

998
01:21:34.670 –> 01:21:35.039
Stephanie Nosco: She had.

999
01:21:35.040 –> 01:21:35.839
Nyk Danu Yoga: Last or long.

1000
01:21:35.840 –> 01:21:37.590
Stephanie Nosco: The last, the last avatar.

1001
01:21:37.590 –> 01:21:37.970
Nyk Danu Yoga: Okay.

1002
01:21:37.970 –> 01:21:38.770
Stephanie Nosco: Yeah, yeah.

1003
01:21:38.770 –> 01:21:39.200
Nyk Danu Yoga: Like, you know.

1004
01:21:39.200 –> 01:21:40.300
Stephanie Nosco: So good.

1005
01:21:40.660 –> 01:21:48.019
Nyk Danu Yoga: The perfect kind of thing to do over the holiday break for me is to dive into some new show. Otherwise it’s like I I can’t. You know, I want to watch it all.

1006
01:21:48.050 –> 01:21:48.690
Nyk Danu Yoga: Yeah.

1007
01:21:49.480 –> 01:21:51.670
Nyk Danu Yoga: One weird fact about you.

1008
01:21:53.650 –> 01:21:54.430
Stephanie Nosco: Oh,

1009
01:21:57.690 –> 01:21:59.779
Stephanie Nosco: Like! How weird does it have to be.

1010
01:21:59.950 –> 01:22:01.110
Nyk Danu Yoga: Well, whatever you want to share.

1011
01:22:01.110 –> 01:22:01.920
Stephanie Nosco: Oh,

1012
01:22:03.140 –> 01:22:04.910
Nyk Danu Yoga: Whenever you feel comfortable, sharing.

1013
01:22:04.910 –> 01:22:07.379
Stephanie Nosco: A weird fact about me.

1014
01:22:12.730 –> 01:22:17.749
Stephanie Nosco: Oh, well, that’s not really weird. It’s more interesting. Okay. I made. I made up my last name.

1015
01:22:18.460 –> 01:22:20.470
Nyk Danu Yoga: Oh, that’s interesting!

1016
01:22:21.030 –> 01:22:25.800
Stephanie Nosco: Yeah, yeah, Nosco is a Latin, for

1017
01:22:26.250 –> 01:22:32.649
Stephanie Nosco: it’s like the Latin equivalent of gnosis, which means knowledge of spiritual mysteries, and I

1018
01:22:32.840 –> 01:22:38.229
Stephanie Nosco: chose it just after I went through separation, and I didn’t want to go back to my maiden name.

1019
01:22:38.320 –> 01:22:39.539
Stephanie Nosco: and I just chose it.

1020
01:22:39.840 –> 01:22:42.920
Nyk Danu Yoga: Most people don’t know this about me, but I also chose my last name.

1021
01:22:42.920 –> 01:22:44.000
Stephanie Nosco: Really.

1022
01:22:45.430 –> 01:22:47.370
Stephanie Nosco: I have strangely a lot in common.

1023
01:22:47.370 –> 01:22:50.140
Nyk Danu Yoga: Relationship and all that stuff right? It was like

1024
01:22:50.170 –> 01:22:52.550
Nyk Danu Yoga: I was doing a lot of stage work at the time.

1025
01:22:52.550 –> 01:22:53.280
Stephanie Nosco: Yeah.

1026
01:22:53.280 –> 01:23:00.829
Nyk Danu Yoga: And you know, doing hair. And I just thought and I’ve always hated my middle name. So I was like, well, if I’m gonna change my name.

1027
01:23:01.230 –> 01:23:09.610
Nyk Danu Yoga: Why don’t I just choose one now? My 1st name is the same. I just they just changed the spelling slightly, but my last name I got rid of my middle name.

1028
01:23:09.700 –> 01:23:21.500
Nyk Danu Yoga: And then, yeah, I chose my last name. It took me a year of I mean, it is an actual word. It’s well. Danu is like the Celtic water goddess, and it’s a whole, a whole Celtic thing there. But

1029
01:23:21.580 –> 01:23:31.919
Nyk Danu Yoga: but yeah, interesting. Yeah, I also did the same. I was like, well, if I’m gonna pay all this money, get new Id to do the legal name change, I gotta change all my bank accounts. I’m gonna choose a name that like

1030
01:23:32.110 –> 01:23:34.699
Nyk Danu Yoga: that, I feel fits me. Yeah.

1031
01:23:34.730 –> 01:23:35.799
Nyk Danu Yoga: very cool.

1032
01:23:36.220 –> 01:23:38.850
Nyk Danu Yoga: What the world needs now is.

1033
01:23:40.960 –> 01:23:41.720
Stephanie Nosco: Love.

1034
01:23:42.450 –> 01:23:44.140
Nyk Danu Yoga: Yeah, that’s always my answer, too.

1035
01:23:44.140 –> 01:23:44.810
Stephanie Nosco: Yeah.

1036
01:23:46.104 –> 01:23:49.560
Nyk Danu Yoga: One thing I wish people knew about yin yoga.

1037
01:23:51.050 –> 01:23:52.910
Stephanie Nosco: That it’s actually Qigong.

1038
01:23:53.320 –> 01:23:54.010
Nyk Danu Yoga: Nice.

1039
01:23:54.530 –> 01:23:55.940
Stephanie Nosco: They’re not different.

1040
01:23:55.940 –> 01:23:56.939
Nyk Danu Yoga: They’re not separate.

1041
01:23:56.940 –> 01:23:58.150
Stephanie Nosco: No.

1042
01:24:00.510 –> 01:24:04.530
Nyk Danu Yoga: Is there anything that I forgot to ask you about that? You want to add?

1043
01:24:06.540 –> 01:24:09.499
Nyk Danu Yoga: I mean, of course, I’m gonna give you an opportunity to

1044
01:24:09.620 –> 01:24:11.689
Nyk Danu Yoga: give your website and all that business.

1045
01:24:11.690 –> 01:24:12.650
Stephanie Nosco: Yeah.

1046
01:24:15.060 –> 01:24:15.870
Stephanie Nosco: Hmm.

1047
01:24:16.740 –> 01:24:18.310
Stephanie Nosco: think so? I think that felt.

1048
01:24:18.440 –> 01:24:22.320
Stephanie Nosco: yeah, that felt really complete. To me. It was a nice conversation.

1049
01:24:22.640 –> 01:24:24.790
Nyk Danu Yoga: So friends that are listening.

1050
01:24:25.350 –> 01:24:30.969
Nyk Danu Yoga: you know we always do. an opportunity for Stephanie to share where she’s at

1051
01:24:31.070 –> 01:24:33.370
Nyk Danu Yoga: all of that, but also want to mention

1052
01:24:33.540 –> 01:24:36.869
Nyk Danu Yoga: her. And I are working on a book giveaway.

1053
01:24:37.360 –> 01:24:46.839
Nyk Danu Yoga: We cannot give you all the details in this episode because they’re her. I mean. It’s a good position to be in, but her book is currently out of print because they sold too many. So we’re kind of waiting on

1054
01:24:47.130 –> 01:24:51.820
Nyk Danu Yoga: shipping and things like that. But if you are interested in winning a copy of this book.

1055
01:24:51.920 –> 01:25:02.910
Nyk Danu Yoga: head over to my Instagram and Stephanie’s Instagram, both of which will be linked in the show notes, but you can also say it out in a moment, and there will be details about the giveaway there.

1056
01:25:03.326 –> 01:25:14.079
Nyk Danu Yoga: So it’ll be an Instagram giveaway, and you could get yourself a book. So that. And then let us know your website and your Instagram, and where people can find you.

1057
01:25:14.770 –> 01:25:19.790
Stephanie Nosco: Yeah, sure. So my website is my name, stephanienosco.com.

1058
01:25:19.920 –> 01:25:36.799
Stephanie Nosco: And on my website, I have various online courses you can take. Sometimes I run them live. A lot of them are on demand, and I specifically go into the topics of Chinese medicine, the emotions and the organs kind of a blend of Yin and

1059
01:25:37.290 –> 01:25:38.380
Stephanie Nosco: Qigong.

1060
01:25:38.830 –> 01:25:42.370
Stephanie Nosco: and my Instagram is just my name, Stephanie Nosco.

1061
01:25:42.790 –> 01:25:43.220
Nyk Danu Yoga: Beautiful.

1062
01:25:43.220 –> 01:25:46.719
Stephanie Nosco: My book is, follow your dao, and you can buy it on any

1063
01:25:47.010 –> 01:25:49.649
Stephanie Nosco: any anywhere. You get your books.

1064
01:25:49.650 –> 01:25:50.590
Nyk Danu Yoga: All the places.

1065
01:25:50.590 –> 01:25:51.610
Stephanie Nosco: All the places.

1066
01:25:51.820 –> 01:25:52.490
Nyk Danu Yoga: And it’s

1067
01:25:52.780 –> 01:25:53.825
Nyk Danu Yoga: incredibly

1068
01:25:55.280 –> 01:26:02.400
Nyk Danu Yoga: And I’m I’m just gonna say this like, I’m not trying to blow smoke up. Stephanie’s ass here. I actually really love this book?

1069
01:26:02.570 –> 01:26:03.959
Nyk Danu Yoga: Yeah.

1070
01:26:04.260 –> 01:26:10.940
Nyk Danu Yoga: not only is it gorgeous, it’s accessible and and has depth all at the same time. And that is not an easy task

1071
01:26:10.950 –> 01:26:12.040
Nyk Danu Yoga: to make these.

1072
01:26:12.040 –> 01:26:12.580
Stephanie Nosco: Thank you.

1073
01:26:12.580 –> 01:26:14.370
Nyk Danu Yoga: Esoteric concepts

1074
01:26:14.840 –> 01:26:29.280
Nyk Danu Yoga: coherent to the average everyday person, so well done on that, and for those of you that are yin yoga nerds and love Chinese medicine. If that’s something that really interests you, you’re going to get so much from reading this book.

1075
01:26:29.653 –> 01:26:35.929
Nyk Danu Yoga: You know. Sometimes I I get a book, and I read it, and then I’ll interview the person, and then

1076
01:26:36.050 –> 01:26:40.970
Nyk Danu Yoga: eventually their book ends up in the one that goes to the used bookstore later pile. But this one, this one.

1077
01:26:40.970 –> 01:26:46.080
Stephanie Nosco: Yeah, thank you so much for saying that. And I will say that one of my

1078
01:26:46.430 –> 01:26:54.039
Stephanie Nosco: one of my missions, I guess, especially as a as to to share with the Yoga teaching world is,

1079
01:26:54.610 –> 01:27:01.630
Stephanie Nosco: you know, really encouraging people to learn the principles behind the meridians, and that includes the

1080
01:27:01.990 –> 01:27:23.980
Stephanie Nosco: the elemental archetypes and the spirits of them right, and then using that to as I walk in the room, how can I trust my own shen now in my body, you know. How can I keep my shen in my body, speak from that truth? And then, also having the skills to feel into a room and pulling what might be needed from a deeper well of understanding of Chinese medicine.

1081
01:27:24.110 –> 01:27:26.290
Stephanie Nosco: So that’s kind of my niche.

1082
01:27:26.400 –> 01:27:29.139
Stephanie Nosco: Yeah, I think it is yours, too. Yes.

1083
01:27:29.140 –> 01:27:33.209
Nyk Danu Yoga: You know, I always I often just say, you know, if if people, if you’re if you’re

1084
01:27:33.610 –> 01:27:41.680
Nyk Danu Yoga: if you’ve only dabbled in a tiny bit of knowledge. And Tcm, if you’ve only heard about heard about your meridians in your 50 h, that’s not the time to share them.

1085
01:27:41.680 –> 01:27:43.659
Stephanie Nosco: Not the time. Yeah, yeah.

1086
01:27:43.660 –> 01:27:56.279
Nyk Danu Yoga: Use them as inspiration for your own path, deep in your study, if you feel passionate about these things, but like, please don’t feel pressure to make a video for the kidney bladder meridian. You don’t really understand why someone might want to work with their kidney bladder meridium.

1087
01:27:57.355 –> 01:27:59.719
Nyk Danu Yoga: It’s like, Please stop doing that, you know.

1088
01:27:59.720 –> 01:28:01.100
Stephanie Nosco: Exactly, exactly.

1089
01:28:01.100 –> 01:28:01.810
Nyk Danu Yoga: Okay.

1090
01:28:02.300 –> 01:28:03.290
Stephanie Nosco: Yeah, yeah.

1091
01:28:03.290 –> 01:28:03.710
Nyk Danu Yoga: Yeah.

1092
01:28:03.710 –> 01:28:05.059
Stephanie Nosco: And I do.

1093
01:28:06.330 –> 01:28:15.310
Stephanie Nosco: you know, and a lot of questions come in about the teacher training. I run because I don’t run general teacher and teacher trainings. I don’t. The course that I run is about

1094
01:28:15.480 –> 01:28:27.980
Stephanie Nosco: okay. How are we going to take the the psycho emotional aspects of the organs to to deepen our our yin Yoga offerings so that you can check out that information on my website as well.

1095
01:28:28.390 –> 01:28:33.249
Nyk Danu Yoga: Awesome. So, friends, I have asked Stephanie to share

1096
01:28:33.270 –> 01:28:43.709
Nyk Danu Yoga: the parting prayer at the end of her book, because I think it is so beautiful. So if you are in a place like I am, where you can get comfortable, sit tall, close your eyes.

1097
01:28:43.890 –> 01:28:46.780
Nyk Danu Yoga: you know. Maybe bring your hands to your heart if that feels right for you.

1098
01:28:46.860 –> 01:28:56.779
Nyk Danu Yoga: please do if you are not able to do that because you are currently driving, please just bookmark this and come back to a point where you can be standing or seated, and

1099
01:28:56.800 –> 01:29:00.260
Nyk Danu Yoga: be present to this without slamming into other cars.

1100
01:29:00.260 –> 01:29:05.970
Stephanie Nosco: Yes, the way I always say it, Nick, is, you know you listen to poetry

1101
01:29:06.740 –> 01:29:10.120
Stephanie Nosco: and a prayer something like this, like you listen to rain.

1102
01:29:10.120 –> 01:29:10.580
Nyk Danu Yoga: Like, you know.

1103
01:29:10.580 –> 01:29:12.689
Stephanie Nosco: Listen to a babbling brook.

1104
01:29:13.420 –> 01:29:17.090
Stephanie Nosco: It’s like that non-cling way of listening.

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01:29:17.300 –> 01:29:23.369
Stephanie Nosco: And this the style of this writing, I will say also, was inspired by John O’donoghue. I don’t know if you know him.

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01:29:23.850 –> 01:29:27.260
Stephanie Nosco: Work, but the style of it is very. John O’donoghue.

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01:29:27.260 –> 01:29:28.299
Nyk Danu Yoga: Oh, he’s amazing!

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01:29:29.250 –> 01:29:31.270
Nyk Danu Yoga: Okay. When you’re ready, my friend.

1109
01:29:32.380 –> 01:29:34.000
Stephanie Nosco: A parting prayer.

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01:29:35.670 –> 01:29:39.430
Stephanie Nosco: May your heart guide you towards the truth of who you are.

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01:29:40.330 –> 01:29:47.320
Stephanie Nosco: may joy expand you into a wider circle of connection where your light can be seen and celebrated.

1112
01:29:49.210 –> 01:29:52.999
Stephanie Nosco: May your liver move you in the direction of your dreams.

1113
01:29:53.230 –> 01:29:57.270
Stephanie Nosco: giving you the tenacity to stand up for the benefit of all.

1114
01:29:58.010 –> 01:30:03.930
Stephanie Nosco: May compassion hold you in your imperfection, patiently supporting you in your growth.

1115
01:30:05.660 –> 01:30:10.379
Stephanie Nosco: may your spleen center your resolve in each steady step of the journey.

1116
01:30:10.920 –> 01:30:16.290
Stephanie Nosco: grounding your intentions with constancy into your thoughts, words, and actions.

1117
01:30:16.890 –> 01:30:20.570
Stephanie Nosco: May you remember earth as your original mother.

1118
01:30:20.730 –> 01:30:24.780
Stephanie Nosco: and allow yourself to fully receive her nourishment.

1119
01:30:26.720 –> 01:30:30.140
Stephanie Nosco: May your lungs hold on to what is precious.

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Stephanie Nosco: and help you release when the time is right?

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01:30:34.370 –> 01:30:36.970
Stephanie Nosco: May grief act as a teacher

1122
01:30:36.990 –> 01:30:41.809
Stephanie Nosco: for deeper love and understanding of what it means to be mortal.

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01:30:43.800 –> 01:30:47.980
Stephanie Nosco: May your kidneys instill faith in the fertile darkness

1124
01:30:48.470 –> 01:30:50.990
Stephanie Nosco: helping you navigate the unknown.

1125
01:30:51.700 –> 01:30:54.660
Stephanie Nosco: may fear, help, safeguard your resources.

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01:30:54.800 –> 01:30:59.699
Stephanie Nosco: and challenge you to emerge into your most authentic expression.

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Nyk Danu Yoga: Thank you.

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01:31:04.290 –> 01:31:05.990
Stephanie Nosco: Thank you so much.

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01:31:05.990 –> 01:31:06.969
Nyk Danu Yoga: Oh, beautiful

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Nyk Danu Yoga: we’ll say our proper goodbyes once I stop the recording.

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Nyk Danu Yoga: but for those of you that are listening. Thank you and bye, for now.