Pigeon or Swan? Unpacking Yin Yoga Pose Names

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Nyk Danu Yoga: Hi Yinies, and welcome back to a yin Yoga Podcast

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Nyk Danu Yoga: welcome back to those of you that are familiars and welcome welcome to those of you that are brand new around these parts.

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Nyk Danu Yoga: Couple of things to mention.

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Nyk Danu Yoga: So today, we’re going to talk about

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Nyk Danu Yoga: Yin Yoga poses and why they have different names than other styles of Yoga

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Nyk Danu Yoga: going to get into that in a moment. But before we do, a couple of disclaimers disclaimer number one.

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Nyk Danu Yoga: some of. You may know if you, the regular listener that recently I got kittens. And here, for those of you watching on Youtube, is one of them. This is Padme. She really likes to help me podcast

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Nyk Danu Yoga: and by help I mean sometimes lay on my lap. But usually there’s plenty of circling around me, wrestling and biting my knees and feet before she lays on the blanket on my lap.

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Nyk Danu Yoga: And that’s the phase we’re in right now. So if you are watching this. And you see me flinching or moving around or scooping up kittens. It’s because

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Nyk Danu Yoga: the other one does no interest in my podcasting. But this little one. She really likes to be on my lap

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Nyk Danu Yoga: whenever I’m here, whether it’s a zoom class or

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Nyk Danu Yoga: podcasting, she likes to. She likes to be included.

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Nyk Danu Yoga: So she’s around. Her name is Padme, which means Lotus

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Nyk Danu Yoga: and for those of you that are just listening. She’s a little black kitten.

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Nyk Danu Yoga: and she was the runt of the litter. So she’s quite fine boned and tiny, and she’s cute as

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Nyk Danu Yoga: Af.

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Nyk Danu Yoga: And yeah happy to be interrupted by her.

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Nyk Danu Yoga: So if you’re watching on Youtube, you may see some

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Nyk Danu Yoga: cute interruptions, or just me wincing or moving, as some little creator creature is biting me or attacking me, or you know, not settling into her blanket lap

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Nyk Danu Yoga: as quickly as I would like.

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Nyk Danu Yoga: So that’s disclaimer number one. Stay tuned for kitten cameos

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Nyk Danu Yoga: disclaimer number 2 is that this is an adult podcast with adult subject matter and adult languages. So if you have small people around, now is your chance to pause this and go grab some headphones

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Nyk Danu Yoga: because I have the soul of a mermaid, but the mouth of a sailor. So it’s possible that swear words will come up

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Nyk Danu Yoga: so just know that. And today’s a solo episode, so probably won’t be any. You know, guests speaking on the episode. But sometimes, you know, we have subject matter that is not for small ears.

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Nyk Danu Yoga: so take a moment to grab headphones if you have little ones around.

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Nyk Danu Yoga: and then, before we dive in, I just want to read a little podcast love that I got.

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Nyk Danu Yoga: This is by Dolly Chippett.

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Nyk Danu Yoga: I’ve recently discovered your podcasts nick

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Nyk Danu Yoga: loving them so far, I really liked the restorative versus yin episode.

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Nyk Danu Yoga: even as someone trained in both. There’s a misconception with the props

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Nyk Danu Yoga: guilty as charged in brackets. Thank you for clarifying.

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Nyk Danu Yoga: I will check out this episode in the post soon.

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Nyk Danu Yoga: So thank you, Dolly, and if you have not heard that episode.

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Nyk Danu Yoga: it’s yin versus restorative, because there is a big difference, despite the fact that they’re both still quiet and use props. And I did a whole episode on that.

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Nyk Danu Yoga: On that note, dear listener. I may mention other episodes in this episode.

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Nyk Danu Yoga: and if you haven’t listened to all the episodes yet, because you’re new around here in the show notes on whatever app you’re listening to. There’s going to be a document that says, see all episodes at a glance or something like that. That’s just a Google Doc, and it tells you each season the name of the episode, and then a link to where you can listen to it. So if I’m going on and on talking about other episodes, please know you can access all of those

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Nyk Danu Yoga: from that document.

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Nyk Danu Yoga: I started off doing that document mostly for my own sanity. So that when I wanted to link episodes for people, I had them all kind of in one place. And then I thought.

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Nyk Danu Yoga: Wait a minute. You can share a Google Doc, why not just make this publicly available so that anybody who wants to go searching through and check out topics and things like that can check them out. So just know that that is there for you, and it’s a link in the show notes.

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Nyk Danu Yoga: And then the final thing I’ll say.

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Nyk Danu Yoga: is, dear, Yoga, teacher, if you have been around here for a while and you’ve been listening. And you’ve been getting a lot

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Nyk Danu Yoga: this really helps me because you won’t ever miss an episode. And it also helps you because you won’t miss an episode. So please take a moment to do that. Now, if you have not already

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Nyk Danu Yoga: and then, if you’ve already done that.

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Nyk Danu Yoga: And in apple you can also leave reviews that are written. So if you wanted to do that, that would be swell, too. Now I should mention that I don’t see all of them

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Nyk Danu Yoga: in my app. I have to actually go. So for some reason, Apple only shows you like. I only see ones, I think, from the Us. And Canada

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Nyk Danu Yoga: in my app. I don’t know why, so I have to kind of click like a separate page to go find the other ones. So if I don’t read yours right away, don’t worry, I’ll find it, and I’ll get to reading it on the show.

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Nyk Danu Yoga: But it just may be hiding in the other countries. Pile

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Nyk Danu Yoga: question or topic that you are struggling with, and you would like an episode on it.

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Nyk Danu Yoga: please. By all means let me know. Now to be clear. I’m not asking for guest recommendations.

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Nyk Danu Yoga: I mean, you can try that, too. Just may not be very fruitful. So far the podcast is invitation only. So, if there’s a topic that I do not feel qualified to speak on, I look for a guest to speak on it. So by all means, if you know somebody who is an expert in their area of what affects a yin practice, and you want to let me know. Please do. But I’m not just at the point where I’m just randomly interviewing yin Yoga

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Nyk Danu Yoga: teachers because I want to keep this educational

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Nyk Danu Yoga: as opposed to just yoga teachers sitting around chatting, although there’s plenty of that, too.

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Nyk Danu Yoga: Okay, all of that preamble. Let’s get into today’s topic.

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Nyk Danu Yoga: So, my friends, I have a question for you.

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Nyk Danu Yoga: and those of you who are not Shakespeare fans will miss the pun. But that’s okay.

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Nyk Danu Yoga: Would oppose by any other name, not feel as sweet?

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Nyk Danu Yoga: Would a yin yoga pose by any other name not feel as sweet.

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Nyk Danu Yoga: So for those of you that are missing it. It’s sort of a spoof on Romeo and Juliet, or would arose by any other name anyways.

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Nyk Danu Yoga: I wanted to talk about this because.

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Nyk Danu Yoga: 1st of all, if you’ve been around yin circles and you’re kind of new to yin, you might be like. Wait a minute. I learned the name of that pose in half a yoga as blank. But now y’all are calling it this. Huh?

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Nyk Danu Yoga: So there’s that aspect.

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Nyk Danu Yoga: And then there’s the aspect of different yin teachers having slightly different or very different names for poses.

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Nyk Danu Yoga: So let’s get into that, shall we? Why do we have all these poses with different names?

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Nyk Danu Yoga: So 1st I’m just going to share, based on what my teacher, Paul Grilly, has told me.

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Nyk Danu Yoga: And that is that when he started kind of codifying yin.

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Nyk Danu Yoga: So Paul Grelly didn’t create yin

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Nyk Danu Yoga: right like Yin already existed in the world.

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Nyk Danu Yoga: In fact, he learned what we would call these yin poses, or the way of doing yoga in a yin way from Polyzinc. But what he did do is he kind of codified it, and put a structure to it, and started teaching it regularly.

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Nyk Danu Yoga: and then became known, as you know, sort of Mr. Yin Yoga wrote a book. Put out some Dvds. Some courses trained, some teachers, you know small stuff.

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Nyk Danu Yoga: anyway. When I was 1st studying with Paul, one of the things that he mentioned was that in the in the time of I would guess, you say.

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Nyk Danu Yoga: probably even late 80 s. To maybe mid 90 s.

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Nyk Danu Yoga: There was a lot of alignment

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Nyk Danu Yoga: policing in the in, you know, in the Yoga verse.

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Nyk Danu Yoga: So in the time, I would say of maybe the late eighties to mid nineties, there was a lot of

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Nyk Danu Yoga: alignment policing.

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Nyk Danu Yoga: meaning. There was a lot of rules just out there in the Yoga, verse, in classes, in trainings, in articles about the alignment or the air, quotes right way to do a pose versus the wrong way to do a pose.

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Nyk Danu Yoga: And usually these alignment rules came out under the guise of you know, keeping people air quotes safe

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Nyk Danu Yoga: now, many, many years later. There are still many people that are teaching in this way. Unfortunately, that, like there’s 1 air quotes safe way to do a pose, or one air quotes right way to do a pose.

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Nyk Danu Yoga: So I did. Another episode.

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Nyk Danu Yoga: on alignment called. You will not be assimilated. Most people didn’t get that joke. It’s a Star Trek reference.

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Nyk Danu Yoga: by the way, for those of you who are not nerds and didn’t get it so you could check that one out for more on sort of skeletal variation.

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Nyk Danu Yoga: And why this idea that there’s 1 size fits all or one way to do a pose just actually isn’t accurate

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Nyk Danu Yoga: or wise, or skillful. And so, as teachers, we need to be aware of that. And if you haven’t studied the work of my teacher, Paul Grilly. He has a fantastic presentation. It is linked in the show notes

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Nyk Danu Yoga: called anatomy for yoga. It’s not specific to yin. It’s for all yoga. So you don’t even have to be a yin teacher to

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Nyk Danu Yoga: to learn from that, but I highly recommend buying it when I owned it, and still own it. It was on DVD. I also have the streaming version. But it is streaming now, so you can go ahead and

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Nyk Danu Yoga: use that

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Nyk Danu Yoga: and you’ll get a lot of really like good Aha! Moments on like, Whoa, okay, there’s this much variation in humans. I had no idea.

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Nyk Danu Yoga: So sometimes I think we get this idea because we.

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Nyk Danu Yoga: you know, we have an anatomy textbook, or we’re in our Yin training or massage training, or whatever it is. If you happen to be

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Nyk Danu Yoga: qualified in other disciplines, and we have the sort of plastic skeleton in the teaching room. And so we sort of get this idea that like. That’s what everybody looks like inside that. We’re all same. Same. Z, but that’s not true.

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Nyk Danu Yoga: So it’s interesting to think that we all can look at each other. We could all be in a room together right now if we were all together in one place, and we could definitely look at each other and see clear differences. Physically.

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Nyk Danu Yoga: you know. Height, weight, skin, tone, eye, color, body, proportions, etc. I mean, there could be so much more, etc, etc, and yet we think somehow on the inside

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Nyk Danu Yoga: we’re all the same.

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Nyk Danu Yoga: Our hip joints are all the same. Our shoulder joints are all the same.

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Nyk Danu Yoga: Nay, nay, I say that is not true.

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Nyk Danu Yoga: And so

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Nyk Danu Yoga: this was the sort. The reason I’m going into this so much is that this is the ocean that Paul was swimming in

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Nyk Danu Yoga: when he 1st started, really traveling around and making Yin Yoga popular, and when he started teaching it regularly he was swimming around in this alignment.

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Nyk Danu Yoga: Police air quotes right way to do oppose culture, and, believe me, it was thick.

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Nyk Danu Yoga: this culture I was around in it. I was actually originally trained in a style that was like alignment obsessed.

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Nyk Danu Yoga: So I can tell you that at the time this was

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Nyk Danu Yoga: for those of you that are newer teachers, and you’ve had more flexibility with your alignment. The alignment policing was strong.

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Nyk Danu Yoga: and there was all kinds of messages out there about the right and the wrong ways to do poses, and

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Nyk Danu Yoga: also, you know, in teacher trainings. And there was almost this feeling like, if you let if you let air quote your students go kind of out of the box of like the correct alignment that you would probably be injuring them right that they would, you would be causing them harm. So this is kind of the the waters we were swimming in at the time.

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Nyk Danu Yoga: One very clear example of that would be the cue that your knee should never go ahead of your ankle or foot in a lunge.

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Nyk Danu Yoga: Right? Some people are still teaching that.

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Nyk Danu Yoga: That that’s dangerous. That’s bad, somehow, for your knee. Now, maybe if you have a pretty strong knee injury, and maybe shouldn’t even be in a general class, because you should be in kind of like a therapeutic class, or rehabbing with a Pt. Then maybe that might be accurate. Maybe you know, for your particular knee that might not be the most stable position.

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Nyk Danu Yoga: but for people with healthy knees.

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Nyk Danu Yoga: Tell me if you actually believe this, how do you go up the stairs? If you don’t ever let your knee, come ahead of your ankle or your toes, it would be impossible. Our knee joint is made to do that. So this is just one small example of the waters that we were swimming in.

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Nyk Danu Yoga: and, to be clear, not all of the air quotes right ways to do a pose were actually for safety. So, for example.

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Nyk Danu Yoga: a lot of people still teach that in what in yin we call swan or sleeping swan.

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Nyk Danu Yoga: You know, pigeon pose for your hips in other styles of Yoga. A lot of people are still teaching that your front shin should be parallel to the front of your mat, and that your front leg should be at 90 degrees.

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Nyk Danu Yoga: That that’s the air quotes right way to do the pose. That’s the air quotes goal of the pose.

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Nyk Danu Yoga: and that actually could be very injurious. So if you’re a teacher listening, and you have been queuing that, please stop

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Nyk Danu Yoga: not everybody’s hip joint will do that. And if your students think they’re not doing it right unless they do that, they will force themselves into a position that is not ideal for their hip joint and over time that can actually cause injury. So sometimes these so-called alignment cues were because we were trying to air quotes, keep people safe, and sometimes they’re just

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Nyk Danu Yoga: some random aesthetic cue that we saw somewhere in some Yoga book and then got passed down the teacher line. And so every teacher started saying them.

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Nyk Danu Yoga: Okay, so why am I giving you all this preample? Well, this is why, when Paul started teaching Yin.

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Nyk Danu Yoga: he changed the names of the poses

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Nyk Danu Yoga: so that somebody couldn’t say, Oh, well, you’re not doing. Let’s just use Swan again. You’re not doing Swan correctly or pigeon correctly, because the front leg should look like this, you know, it should be shin parallel to the front of the mat front leg at 90 degrees. That’s the correct way to do this pose.

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Nyk Danu Yoga: And so, as a way of just sort of leaving that drama behind.

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Nyk Danu Yoga: Paul just renamed the poses so he could just easily say, We’re not doing, pigeon. We’re doing, Swan.

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Nyk Danu Yoga: So that’s the story that I’ve been told by my teacher, Paul Grilly, about why these new names came out

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Nyk Danu Yoga: now, had he been

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Nyk Danu Yoga: in a different time. Maybe he wouldn’t have needed to rename all these poses. But then, again, I would say that Paul is largely responsible

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Nyk Danu Yoga: in a big way for the turn of these so-called alignment rules being let go because of his work in anatomy for Yoga

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Nyk Danu Yoga: and his bone pictures. And then all of the teachers he’s trained, and then the teachers that

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Nyk Danu Yoga: he’s trained, that have trained other teachers, and so on, and so on and so on. But I would say that in the Yoga verse

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Nyk Danu Yoga: we really owe a huge debt of gratitude to Paul Grilli to my teacher for making skeletal variation and anatomical differences more common knowledge, because back in the day, even when I was studying Yoga, this was not common knowledge.

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Nyk Danu Yoga: everybody was assumed to have the same shoulder joints, the same hip joints, etc. And so really you were only modifying. If someone had an injury or wasn’t flexible enough to get into a pose, then we would air, quote, modify the pose for them.

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Nyk Danu Yoga: But now no understanding skeletal variation. Truth be told, these aren’t necessarily modifications at all. It’s just each individual’s version of doing a pose.

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Nyk Danu Yoga: So this is why the new names came out.

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Nyk Danu Yoga: This is why Paul decided to rename Moses, now

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Nyk Danu Yoga: also worth pointing out that Paul himself has renamed poses even since he’s been teaching until now.

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Nyk Danu Yoga: And so even within the Yin community, you are going to find different names for different poses. So I’ll talk more about that in a moment. But I want to say that this isn’t unique to the Yin community.

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Nyk Danu Yoga: When I was teaching Hatha Yoga, which was Iyangar, influenced and alignment obsessed.

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Nyk Danu Yoga: We had names for poses that were slightly different than even in a tradition like the Aishtanga tradition.

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Nyk Danu Yoga: Kundalina Yoga has a pose that we would call downward dog, which I think they call pyramid, or something.

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Nyk Danu Yoga: or triangle. Maybe

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Nyk Danu Yoga: and have postural archetypes, which more of the poses that you know, that had individual names now fall under. Sort of an umbrella of an archetype. So this is still fairly recent, actually. And so this can be confusing, because if you are studying with one of Paul’s old school teachers raises her hand, who was around and practicing with him before these archetypes and before a whole bunch of poses got slotted into these archetypes.

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Nyk Danu Yoga: And so you can even notice a difference from one teacher to another with exactly the same pose. Here’s a perfect example. Bernie is the only person I know, and Bernie trained people or people who’ve read Bernie’s books, who uses banana Asana like. I never heard of banana Asana ever, except for Bernie. And then, of course, people Bernie has trained and who have read his book.

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Nyk Danu Yoga: So just know that if you were the type of person who gets rigidly attached to things being right and wrong, you are going to struggle as a yin teacher or a yin practitioner because there is no right and wrong, and there’s a lot of that’s interesting, or Oh, that depends, or Oh, I call this blah blah blah, or I learned this pose as blah blah.

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Nyk Danu Yoga: I will teach that often with people, and I will give them the choice to either extend both legs out straight, which Paul and Susie call pontoon.

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Nyk Danu Yoga: kneel were to replace dragon. Then wouldn’t this just be some people call it? Some of my colleagues call it lazy dragons. I’ve heard Sleeping Dragon, I call it Baby Dragon Tomato tomato. See right there, lazy dragon, sleepy dragon, baby dragon. It’s all the same thing. It’s all the same pose, and it’s a great variation for people who can’t kneel and do dragon.

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Nyk Danu Yoga: to a name based on what somebody else told you, which isn’t even necessarily your own experience. So there’s a problem there, too. So let’s you know, use our critical thinking to go. Oh, okay, well, my teacher called it this, that person’s teacher called it that.

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Nyk Danu Yoga: I’m gonna stick with my name, or maybe I like theirs better, and I’m gonna use their name.

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Nyk Danu Yoga: I’m not familiar with that pose. Can you show me a picture so that I can see what it is that they’re talking about? Because I certainly can’t ask. Answer a question about a pose. If I don’t actually have a good picture in my mind of what pose it is they’re talking about.

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Nyk Danu Yoga: and so at the time the ocean he was swimming in was full of piranhas of alignment rules, doing things right and wrong, injuring your students, Yada Yada Yada, the right way, the wrong way to do things. And so, rather than kind of swim in that piranha infested water and constantly have to try to defend himself. It just kind of swam over to where the ocean was blue, and there was nobody attacking anybody, and he renamed his poses.

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Nyk Danu Yoga: and that is what most of us learned. But again, even within Paul’s student base, you’re going to find differences in names of poses, perfect example. Bernie with his banana, Asana and me calling it crescent pose.

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Nyk Danu Yoga: or Bernie calling it straddle, and me calling it what Paul did, which was dragonfly.

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Nyk Danu Yoga: and that if you find that you’re struggling with that, that’s actually what you need to look at, not what the name of the poses it’s like, why am I so attached to this name?

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Nyk Danu Yoga: when it’s like, I’m not on the yoga mat like, why does it matter what this pose is called? If we know what it does.

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Nyk Danu Yoga: Honestly, I would say. Probably at least a quarter of the time. I don’t even say the name of the pose. I just start using my cues to get people into the pose. I might say it part way through or at the end. But honestly, I’m going to cue them. How to get into the pose, and what modifications they could use and what props they could use, and other alternatives for people who it doesn’t work for. I’m going to say all that before the pose name.

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Nyk Danu Yoga: wouldn’t a yin yoga pose by any other name still feel just as sweet?

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Nyk Danu Yoga: I think so.

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Nyk Danu Yoga: Okay, friends, I think that’s enough for this episode. I hope that you got something from this. Remember, when you’re talking to other Yoga professionals or other Yin Yoga students about a pose. And if people are like, I don’t know what that is. Just send them a picture

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Nyk Danu Yoga: because they may have learned it differently than you.

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Nyk Danu Yoga: To 1 1 person’s banana is another person’s crescent moon pose.

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Nyk Danu Yoga: and until we meet again, my friends, bye, for now.