The Power of Words in Yin Yoga-with Leta Lavigne

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Nyk Danu Yoga: Hi Yanice, and welcome back to a yin Yoga, Podcast I have a guest interview for you today.

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Nyk Danu Yoga: I’m super excited about a colleague and school chum of mine.

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Nyk Danu Yoga: We’ll hear more about that once we get started. But today’s topic is going to be on

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Nyk Danu Yoga: words. The power of the words that we choose to use

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Nyk Danu Yoga: in our Yoga classes.

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Nyk Danu Yoga: And I can’t wait to dive right in. But before we do

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Nyk Danu Yoga: just very quickly.

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Nyk Danu Yoga: a podcast review.

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Nyk Danu Yoga: this is a 5 star from Mj. Healy. 2, 8, 2. I know who you are. Hello. Matthew.

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Nyk Danu Yoga: I 1st encountered Nick on the MB podcast. Which is a Yoga business podcast

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Nyk Danu Yoga: where she talked about her journey to Yoga, and how she approaches marketing for her business.

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Nyk Danu Yoga: Her journey was similar, almost identical to mine. She’s a breath of fresh air in a Meilou that seems

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Nyk Danu Yoga: for better or worse, saturated with Yoga podcasts that can be overly technical at times.

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Nyk Danu Yoga: Thank you, Matthew.

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Nyk Danu Yoga: All right, my friends, just a reminder as well that

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Nyk Danu Yoga: although I have the soul of a mermaid, I also have the mouth of a sailor, so you can expect some adult language.

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Nyk Danu Yoga: So please take that into consideration

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Nyk Danu Yoga: and grab yourself some headphones. Now.

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Nyk Danu Yoga: So my guest today is Alita Levine.

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Nyk Danu Yoga: Yeah, I’m looking forward to chat.

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Nyk Danu Yoga: So my guest today is Alita Levine, and I’ll just quickly give you a little heads up about her. Bio

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Nyk Danu Yoga: Leda Levine, who is a registered 500 and a continuing education provider is actually a Seattle native, and the founder of Yoga Rocks Studios in Finland.

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Nyk Danu Yoga: As a long time student of Yin Yoga, founder, Paul Grilly

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Nyk Danu Yoga: Lida, embraces the functional approach to teaching.

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Nyk Danu Yoga: She crafts intuitive Yin and Yin Yang classes

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Nyk Danu Yoga: enriched with a somatic dimension embracing Yoga as both the anchor and the instrument of flow. Oh, beautiful

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Nyk Danu Yoga: and of course I will

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Nyk Danu Yoga: put all of her Instagram and all of that in the bio and her website. So if you want to connect with her

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Nyk Danu Yoga: on her Instagram to see her reflections on Yoga motherhood and life as a transplant in the country of rye bed, rye bread, and reindeer. Oh, my goodness.

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Nyk Danu Yoga: let’s try this again.

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Nyk Danu Yoga: Okay.

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Nyk Danu Yoga: so Lida Levine is a Seattle native, and the founder of Yoga Rock Studios in Finland.

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Nyk Danu Yoga: As a long time student of Yin Yoga, founder, Paul Grilly Lida, embraces the functional approach to teaching. She crafts intuitive Yin and Yang classes that are enriched with a somatic dimension

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Nyk Danu Yoga: embracing Yoga as both the anchor and the instrument of flow.

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Nyk Danu Yoga: You can visit yoga rocks.fi to find out about upcoming trainings and events, or connect with her on Instagram

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Nyk Danu Yoga: at Lida underscore Levine

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Nyk Danu Yoga: to see her reflections on Yoga, motherhood and life as a transplant in the country of rye bread and reindeer.

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Nyk Danu Yoga: So that’s my friend, and the next time that you hear from me you will hear from me with Lita.

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Nyk Danu Yoga: Welcome.

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Leta: Do? I have to? Hi! Well, hi!

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Nyk Danu Yoga: Thanks for coming.

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Leta: Thank you for me.

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Nyk Danu Yoga: You will have to say yes to the recording.

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Leta: Yes, I

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Leta: I agreed.

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Nyk Danu Yoga: Gotcha. We are good to go then.

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Nyk Danu Yoga: Well, 1st of all, thank you for joining me. What time is it where you are?

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Leta: It is 7 Pm.

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Nyk Danu Yoga: It is always

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Nyk Danu Yoga: such an exciting idea to connect with my European friends. And then we start trying to do the time change thing. And it’s like, Oh, crap! How is this gonna work out.

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Leta: Right? What? Yeah, you’re in the morning, right?

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Nyk Danu Yoga: Yeah, spoken out in here. Yeah.

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Nyk Danu Yoga: yeah. I have a friend who lives half of his life in Thailand and half in Spain, and he’s been asking me to be on his podcast.

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Nyk Danu Yoga: And it’s not going to happen till he’s back in Spain, because Thailand is like 24 h ahead. So it’s like it would be the middle of the night for me or for him. It’s just a yeah.

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Nyk Danu Yoga: So thank you for taking evening time

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Nyk Danu Yoga: for this. I appreciate that.

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Leta: My pleasure. I’m happy to be here.

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Nyk Danu Yoga: So let’s start with I always like to start with hearing about people’s Yoga journey.

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Nyk Danu Yoga: I know that myself and other Yoga teachers love to hear how other people

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Nyk Danu Yoga: found a yoga. So maybe we’ll start with that.

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Leta: Okay?

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Leta: Well, I flirted with it a little bit. When I was at my 1st year of university I took an Indian philosophies class, and the sort of ancient instructor of that course did a class in his home that I went to, and

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Leta: I was one of those.

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Leta: you know, annoying students who was there like hee

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Leta: like, Oh, you know what’s happening. And it took a a good while after that before going back.

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Leta: And it was a much different style that I went back to. So some years ago I was living in Thailand at the time.

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Leta: and I got really into hot Yoga Bikram yoga! That was like my 1st love.

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Leta: Which I know it’s crazy. But like I was living in the island of Phuket, and I would drive

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Leta: all the way across the island. This gorgeous, gorgeous, you know, tropical weather to the air conditioned Mall, and inside the air conditioned Mall to the hot Yoga studio.

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Nyk Danu Yoga: Area.

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Leta: Yes, it was. I know I love it.

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Nyk Danu Yoga: Even think about hot Yoga in a country as hot as Thailand.

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Leta: Right. But then, like you said.

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Nyk Danu Yoga: Picture you painted of like out from the heat into the air, conditioning back into the heat, into.

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Leta: Yeah.

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Nyk Danu Yoga: Back, outside, wow.

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Leta: Yes, yes, and yeah, that was the practice that I 1st got into. And I

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Leta: for me it was just such a

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Leta: transformational.

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Leta: you know, tool in my life. It was like a time where I was sort of searching. What am I doing? I didn’t have a real job, but you know, I was working for an international school, but it was not like my career path. I was sort of, you know, in between.

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Leta: So really

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Leta: fell in love with the practice of hot yoga.

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Leta: and then my practice kind of evolved from there. I wasn’t practicing for even too long. Really, I practiced a lot. But I wasn’t practicing for maybe a year before I decided to go to teacher training.

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Leta: So

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Leta: 2,008,

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Leta: I went to teacher training.

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Leta: I didn’t have the intention to teach. I just thought like, Oh, I love this thing so much. I want to know more. I want to do more.

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Leta: And so I went to an intensive with Jimmy Barkin in Florida.

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Leta: and I did a 1st 200 h teacher training. And it wasn’t. It wasn’t my plan. I was still living in Thailand, working for the school but then teaching jobs, you know, started to fall in my lap. Everyone was like, Can you come and teach at this boxing gym? And

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Leta: can you teach at the dance studio? And so a lot of opportunities started to come up.

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Leta: and then

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Leta: I moved to Finland, and I didn’t have a job. And so this was like several years into it. We opened a studio so that I could have work here and.

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Nyk Danu Yoga: And you moved to Finland because you met a boy right.

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Leta: Yes. Yeah.

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Nyk Danu Yoga: The typical.

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Leta: Story, to.

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Nyk Danu Yoga: Yeah. Sorry.

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Leta: Yeah.

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Nyk Danu Yoga: Yeah.

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Leta: So.

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Leta: yeah, that was 2,000 and

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Leta: 12,010. Yeah. And I was really physical. I you know, I from hot Yoga. I got into Vinyasa flow. I did some vinyasa flow trainings that was really like my

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Leta: passion in the practice@firstst

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Leta: But I had some issues with my shoulder.

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Leta: basically, you know.

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Leta: woke up one day and my arm didn’t lift up any higher than this.

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Nyk Danu Yoga: And.

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Leta: Then it was a long journey back from that, and that’s where.

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Nyk Danu Yoga: Frozen shoulder.

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Leta: It was

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Leta: something called parsonage Turner Syndrome, where, basically.

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Leta: because of a virus like Dang, I had dengue fever when I was in Thailand.

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Nyk Danu Yoga: And with.

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Leta: Triggered something in the immune system where it’s like your body is like attaching, attacking its own nerves.

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Nyk Danu Yoga: Wow!

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Leta: Yeah. So then, when you you know, you get overly stressed, or whatever it’s too much, you’re working out too much. And then

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Leta: so yeah, I had a few recurrences of that. And then one day it was just like, Oh, I went from being like this is the year of pressing up to handstand to like. Oh, I don’t raise my arm, and that sort of

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Leta: pushed me towards the inside.

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Leta: That’s when I decided to go to a 1st training with Paul Greeley.

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Leta: And that led me more to yin meditation. And of course I can, you know, do this again. But

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Leta: yeah, that was a that was a.

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Nyk Danu Yoga: So you had done some some yin. I’m guessing before.

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Leta: Like.

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Nyk Danu Yoga: Decided to run off. Yes.

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Leta: Actually in that hot Yoga studio in Thailand. I had tried yin. I hated it. I thought it was like

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Leta: torture, basically. For me it was torture.

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Nyk Danu Yoga: Wasn’t where you were at.

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Leta: It was not where I was at at that time. Yeah, so

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Nyk Danu Yoga: Actually, I think, pretty common.

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Leta: Jennifer.

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Nyk Danu Yoga: And cause. I’ll often when I’m when I’m doing this, podcast I’ll

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Nyk Danu Yoga: because I’m largely talking to a lot of teachers. I’ll say, like, if you have those students that are like the Vinyasa E girls and the hot girls, it’s like

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Nyk Danu Yoga: you. You’re gonna have to speak to some things because they’re gonna be like this sequence is boring. Are we still doing this like, you’re gonna have to like.

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Nyk Danu Yoga: you know, you’re gonna have to make an interesting to them, you know.

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Leta: Yeah.

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Nyk Danu Yoga: With with your.

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Leta: It takes time. It takes time. And

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Leta: yeah, I think it’s not always the practice for everyone. At every point in in their life. You have those new students, and I always say like, that’s when you you know you find the little pile of like torn toenails.

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Nyk Danu Yoga: Yes.

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Leta: True story.

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Nyk Danu Yoga: Yeah.

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Nyk Danu Yoga: they’re just fidgeting away.

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Leta: Bake, yeah.

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Nyk Danu Yoga: Yeah.

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Nyk Danu Yoga: well, I.

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Leta: Yeah, I got into you and I started to study with Paul Greeley, and that’s where we met.

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Nyk Danu Yoga: Yes.

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Leta: And yeah.

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Nyk Danu Yoga: And so

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Nyk Danu Yoga: you were kind of essentially

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Nyk Danu Yoga: a force by the shoulder thing

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Nyk Danu Yoga: to yeah, to spend more time.

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Leta: A detour in that direction. I was still teaching everything active, and I still do teach young forms of Yoga.

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Leta: But

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Leta: yeah, over the years. And then also, I think, just with aging. You know much more of

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Leta: my my home.

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Leta: With.

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Nyk Danu Yoga: for those of us that are aging with yoga as teachers, I find.

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Leta: Into the.

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Nyk Danu Yoga: But there’s

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Nyk Danu Yoga: I don’t know like for me. There was just a point where, like.

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Nyk Danu Yoga: I don’t have poses on my vision board anymore. You know

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Nyk Danu Yoga: that like center of the room handstand, it’s like

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Nyk Danu Yoga: actually just kind of want to feel good in my body and soothe my nervous system. So I’m not snapping at people when I’m out and about, and that’s enough, you know. That’s it.

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Nyk Danu Yoga: Yeah.

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Leta: Yeah.

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Nyk Danu Yoga: Beautiful. So then you went over. You ran away, and you studied with Paul, and then you did that repeatedly.

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Leta: I did that repeatedly. I did that a lot. Yes,

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Leta: I just came back from

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Leta: studying with Paul. For the 1st time since. Covid. So yeah, I have newed on with Paul and Susie, and that has been a really huge influence for me. Of course. What? The 1st time I went there, you know, completely blew up everything that I had just

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Leta: learned, and everything that I had been doing for the last couple of years. But it’s been a process to

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Leta: continue to integrate all of that functionality. And

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Leta: yeah. So that’s been wonderful. I also studied with Tara Judell and Dr. Scott Lyons, in the school of embodied flow.

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Nyk Danu Yoga: Nice.

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Leta: Sort of a somatics.

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Leta: and I’m not familiar with them.

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Leta: Yeah. Well, Tarji Dell is still running that school. She’s amazing. Yeah.

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Nyk Danu Yoga: It’s a.

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Leta: It’s a wonderful school

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Nyk Danu Yoga: And so you’re you’re incorporating somatics in with your flows.

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Leta: I think that that

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Leta: creeps its way in.

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Nyk Danu Yoga: Yeah.

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Leta: Don’t like.

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Nyk Danu Yoga: Help. But right? But yeah.

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Leta: Yeah, but it definitely comes in.

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Nyk Danu Yoga: Yeah, I remember many years ago, when I was still I wasn’t teaching in yet. I was teaching

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Nyk Danu Yoga: because I came from the Ayengar camp, and then.

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Nyk Danu Yoga: you know, discovered Paul’s, DVD. Back in the old days when it was on DVD. And then had done a weekend workshop with him, and so I was having this like,

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Nyk Danu Yoga: so all these like one size fits. Everybody rules that I learned in Ayangar Yoga, or if you can’t do this, we just put more props under you till you all look the same. Luckily I was very blessed that that was only

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Nyk Danu Yoga: 2 years into my teaching.

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Nyk Danu Yoga: What I started noticing is, of course, in the beginning I used my teachers words. And then when I realized, Oh, maybe those aren’t so skillful. I I used other words that I heard around in the Yoga world. But it wasn’t until I took my Yoga therapy training that I really started like wordsmithing with my own words where I would be like even in my yin

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Nyk Danu Yoga: which is what happened to me the last time that I studied with Paul. Now I’d I don’t like to say the last time, because I don’t mean

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Nyk Danu Yoga: Nonplussed and just doesn’t care. It’s not attached right. But I remember sitting down with him and just saying, You know, can I have couple of minutes, and he said, Sure, and I just said, You know I’m I’m noticing.

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Nyk Danu Yoga: since I’ve been studying yoga therapy that some of these the words that we’ve been all using in the in circles just aren’t working for me like Edge, you know, and

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Nyk Danu Yoga: target area. And just I was like,

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Nyk Danu Yoga: you know some of this language

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Nyk Danu Yoga: and

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Nyk Danu Yoga: and I said, they just aren’t really working with me. And you know I’m wondering how you feel about that about, you know, re wordsmithing these things, and he looked at me very matter of factly in his, in his way, that Paul does and says, Well, you should use whatever words work for you and your students, you know, just like.

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Nyk Danu Yoga: alright, we’re done with that, you know, like it was no big deal to him right whatsoever. So

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Nyk Danu Yoga: so I really think

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Nyk Danu Yoga: that there is this line between

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Nyk Danu Yoga: at a certain point in your teaching career, where

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Nyk Danu Yoga: you have all the words from your teachers.

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Nyk Danu Yoga: and then you start to find your own, and from from me they come from my own practice.

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Nyk Danu Yoga: That’s how I realized this doesn’t feel like a rebound. What does it feel like? What would be the word? And I’d heard someone else call it an echo, and I was like close, but not quite. And then I was like, it’s a resonance for me.

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Nyk Danu Yoga: And so I’m guessing that those words which we can, we can go over some of them in a little bit. That that you

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Nyk Danu Yoga: wordsmithed

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Nyk Danu Yoga: were based on.

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Nyk Danu Yoga: like what

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Nyk Danu Yoga: you felt in your body and what you felt was needed as you were teaching.

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Leta: Yeah, I think so. I mean, I think we are.

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Leta: We’re trying to

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Leta: what we’re we’re communicating, obviously. And we’re trying to

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Leta: sort of guide that energetic

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Leta: experience or the energetic curve of the class we’re trying to.

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Leta: you know, set up this space for experiencing and to give it a vibe, you know, for lack of a better word, like.

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Leta: And it just it feels differently if you say like, all right, you know, change to the other side versus like, Take your time to migrate over to the other side, and you give it a little time. Give it a little space, you know, to deliver it.

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Leta: and I think also, because.

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Leta: at least for me, especially here in Finland, like I’m barely speaking in the in class. To be honest, I’m like I’m barely speaking

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Leta: so we have few words, and you want those. You know, each to be as potent as they can be to carry. You know that message of like, Hey, you can let go. We’re here to unwind. You have time, you have choice, like all of these.

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Leta: Qualities that are the, you know, the yin qualities

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Leta: that

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Leta: can come even with just like one, you know, swapping out 1 1 word. So yeah.

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Nyk Danu Yoga: I think you’re right

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Nyk Danu Yoga: definitely when you start

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Nyk Danu Yoga: teaching a style where the words are fewer.

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Leta: Hmm.

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Nyk Danu Yoga: You really start to notice the words that you do say.

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Nyk Danu Yoga: Yeah.

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Leta: And you know.

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Nyk Danu Yoga: I mean as a teacher, you know. Sometimes you notice the ones you say over and over that you’re like, why do I keep.

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Leta: Right.

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Nyk Danu Yoga: That I don’t even want to say that, you know.

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Nyk Danu Yoga: you know. So sometimes we have these speaking habits.

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Leta: Yeah.

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Nyk Danu Yoga: Right of things that we, we say one that I say a lot that I’m trying to nip in the bud is just.

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Leta: Yeah, you know, yeah.

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Nyk Danu Yoga: We’re just gonna do this. And the reason I say it, I know, is because I want it to feel

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Nyk Danu Yoga: less serious, you know, like. I don’t want them to feel like there’s all this pressure on them.

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Leta: Yeah.

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Nyk Danu Yoga: It doesn’t. That word doesn’t need to be there. So you know, for those of you that are newer teachers. If you’re wordsmithing and hearing yourself talk sometimes, and are like, I mean, you know, even 20 years later, I’m still like, why do I say just? And when I write I always start with so.

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Leta: I thought that too.

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Nyk Danu Yoga: So, yeah, yeah, I’ll have my partner glance at things to edit. He’d be like, why did you start that sentence with? So I’m like.

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Nyk Danu Yoga: because that’s how I would speak it.

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Nyk Danu Yoga: You know I would say it that way, you know.

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Nyk Danu Yoga: but when you.

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Leta: Make one of those little rules for yourself, I mean, I have done the same thing where I’m like. Oh, my God, I’m why am I saying that it’s almost like it just goes. You know, it comes more. Yeah, sometimes.

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Nyk Danu Yoga: Yes, it either comes more, or you’re just now hyper aware of it like, maybe.

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Leta: Right.

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Nyk Danu Yoga: Like oh, there it is again! There.

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Leta: And I can’t stop saying it. Yeah.

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Nyk Danu Yoga: I’ve tried to start

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Nyk Danu Yoga: pausing

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Nyk Danu Yoga: before I speak, and that helps. It’s still not a work. It’s a work of progress still, but that helps replace that just.

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Leta: Hmm.

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Nyk Danu Yoga: Just an intentional breath. And then I then I say what I need to say without, Yeah.

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Leta: Yes.

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Nyk Danu Yoga: Yes.

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Leta: Yes.

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Nyk Danu Yoga: Yeah.

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Leta: It would probably be more powerful without the jest. But yeah.

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Nyk Danu Yoga: Yeah, yeah.

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Leta: I know. Sometimes it just comes out like that.

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Nyk Danu Yoga: I remember when I took my therapeutic in training, we all had to do teaching in front of the you know, as a group which had a little segment for a class, and

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Nyk Danu Yoga: and then the facilitator, bless her! Asked us if we wanted feedback on our teaching, which is great in a teacher training to not have to get it. If you don’t feel like you’re in a position where you can take it. And then she would say, do you want it now? Or do you want me to email you? Which I also thought was great?

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Nyk Danu Yoga: And I was like, Bring it. And she told me

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Nyk Danu Yoga: the problem for me was because I was already grillified.

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Leta: Yeah.

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Nyk Danu Yoga: Already so aware of the fact that not everything’s going to work for everybody, and there might be different options that I was already teaching in a way that included invitational language.

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Leta: And so, but.

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Nyk Danu Yoga: Then I was taking this trauma training, and so I was like over inviting, like I was. I was using so many invitational words, and I remember at 1 point being like

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Nyk Danu Yoga: 2 invitational words, is enough like you don’t need.

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Leta: Inside.

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Nyk Danu Yoga: Maybe perhaps when you’re ready, as you feel like it was just like it was getting wordy. It was getting word salad, you know.

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Leta: Yeah.

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Nyk Danu Yoga: And that’s another thing to note that I have noticed, and especially, I would think, for teachers. And I’m I’m guessing that you would have a similar experience that

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Nyk Danu Yoga: come from teaching an active form of Yoga.

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Nyk Danu Yoga: Just not talking so much is hard.

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Leta: Hmm.

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Nyk Danu Yoga: Because you’re so used to queuing every micro movement and every breath and every and then you’re like.

461
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Nyk Danu Yoga: Okay, so you’re all in the shape.

462
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Nyk Danu Yoga: You found your spots.

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Nyk Danu Yoga: Now, what do I do up here, you know again.

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Leta: Time.

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Nyk Danu Yoga: It’s tough at the beginning.

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Leta: I’m yeah, I think it is. We do spend a good amount of time in teacher training, talking about like now they’re in there, you know. And what do you say or not? Say? How do you get comfortable with like not saying

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Leta: you know you. You’re not just speaking for your for the sake of speaking? Obviously.

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Leta: But yeah.

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Leta: yeah, the invitational language. I I hear you with that. And I think that is

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Leta: one challenge for us as functional. You know. Teachers, all of us is to like.

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Leta: keep it invitational. Make sure that they know their options. They have choices without just like overwhelming them with.

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Nyk Danu Yoga: Option.

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Leta: And like.

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Nyk Danu Yoga: Yes, that’s the key, right with not overwhelming, not giving them all of the poses for their it bandits.

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Leta: What about like this? What about.

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Nyk Danu Yoga: Or you could try that or try a Proc here, or, yeah, cause you can get.

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Leta: Walk. I’m in your butt.

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Nyk Danu Yoga: Now it’s been 15 min, and we just got you into that post. Yeah, no, I tend to do. Like, you know, kind of like 2 or 3 variations, and mention one alternative pose, you know, for injuries or whatever. And then then I just see what’s in front of me.

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Nyk Danu Yoga: cause I might not need to do any more. And if people, if somebody is struggling, or then I’ll go over to that person or give a 3rd or 4th option. But

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Nyk Danu Yoga: yeah, it can be a whole thing now. I was I was already like that in Nyungar, too, because it’s the same thing. It’s like, I mean, they’re trying to make you all look the same. But it’s still very much a

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Nyk Danu Yoga: that doesn’t work for you. Put a block here, put a blanket here, try this. Try that, you know. So the whole buffet of options.

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Leta: Right.

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Nyk Danu Yoga: Bit intense.

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Nyk Danu Yoga: And so I’m wondering for you

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Nyk Danu Yoga: because you’re already a wordsmith.

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Nyk Danu Yoga: When you put that graphic out that is hilarious to me. By the way, that you just said that it was like well, it was actually more of a

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Nyk Danu Yoga: crap. I need to put something on Instagram.

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Leta: What can I?

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Nyk Danu Yoga: Put up, you know.

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Leta: I mean, I’m just being honest.

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Nyk Danu Yoga: No, that’s no, that’s that’s real life. I know. All the Yoga teachers listening to this are nodding right now, going? Yes, daily. I have a what the crap am I gonna put.

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Leta: Hello!

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Nyk Danu Yoga: Graham thought.

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Nyk Danu Yoga: and then it kind of took off.

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Nyk Danu Yoga: It started getting shared around, and then.

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Leta: Yeah, yeah.

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Nyk Danu Yoga: Journal, knocked on your door and said, Hey, can we.

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Leta: Yeah.

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Leta: I did feel a little bit like it was sort of a a wink from the universe.

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Leta: That maybe I should circle back around to writing a little bit. You know that maybe.

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Nyk Danu Yoga: Be my.

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Leta: Sigh.

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Leta: Yeah. So a few things have come up since then. But

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Leta: yeah, it was literally like a

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Leta: just on my phone.

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Nyk Danu Yoga: Yeah.

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Leta: Late evening, just

508
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Leta: like a dad.

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Nyk Danu Yoga: Tell you a funny story.

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Nyk Danu Yoga: So in the Yin Yoga network.

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Nyk Danu Yoga: and I cannot remember his name, which is unfortunate.

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Nyk Danu Yoga: somebody posted.

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Nyk Danu Yoga: and I’m going to butcher his question even. But basically he was asking like, what phrases, what words do you use in your in your yin.

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Nyk Danu Yoga: you know classes?

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Nyk Danu Yoga: And I asked him what I asked a lot of people when they ask questions, because there are there are, unfortunately. And I know that Paul says this is okay. But this is one of the few times I’m going to strongly disagree with my teacher. There are a lot of people out there teaching in who have no in training whatsoever.

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Nyk Danu Yoga: And so I always preface these questions with.

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Nyk Danu Yoga: did they go over that in your end, training.

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Leta: Because, if.

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Nyk Danu Yoga: Because if they don’t have a yin training and they’re asking this question, I mean, the very next thing I’m going to say is, you need to find a qualified Yin training like

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Nyk Danu Yoga: you can’t grab some books

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Nyk Danu Yoga: and a playlist and just show up at the studio and think that you’re gonna teach an exceptional Yin class, you know.

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Leta: You.

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Nyk Danu Yoga: You might scrape by.

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Nyk Danu Yoga: you know, but you’re going to be missing. This is why there’s so many people out there that will take a yin class and be like.

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Nyk Danu Yoga: I don’t. Even that was so different than what you do. And it’s because it wasn’t.

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Nyk Danu Yoga: you know. So anyway, I always ask that question, regardless of what the question is like, did they go over this year in training? Because if they say, Oh, I don’t have any, then I’m going to say, Okay.

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Nyk Danu Yoga: step one.

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Leta: Hmm.

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Nyk Danu Yoga: Rewind to begin training. Anyways, this gentleman had taken your training.

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Leta: I said to him.

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Nyk Danu Yoga: What I was like, but

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Nyk Danu Yoga: she gave you like

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Nyk Danu Yoga: a graphic of like I was like.

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Nyk Danu Yoga: and I like I posted it. I was like here. How about some of these? By the the wonderful woman who trained you? And he laughed, and he was like, I know, I know I just wanted more, you know. It’s like, just want more. It’s like.

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Leta: Let me guess. I have a pretty good idea.

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Nyk Danu Yoga: Yeah, like.

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Leta: Perfectly.

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Nyk Danu Yoga: Yeah, I just wanted more. I was like, well, how many girls.

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Leta: Are coming!

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Nyk Danu Yoga: Ways. Can you say the same thing? But it turns out you can say the same thing a lot of different ways.

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Leta: Yes, you can. There was that other wonderful conversation just the other day in that same group about

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Leta: stretch and stress.

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Nyk Danu Yoga: Yes.

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Leta: That. And you know that was a that was a.

545
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Nyk Danu Yoga: Glitting of the hairs never ends, does. It?

546
00:40:38.940 –> 00:40:40.590
Nyk Danu Yoga: Is like, really.

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00:40:41.090 –> 00:40:44.839
Nyk Danu Yoga: yeah, you know. Yeah, I think sometimes.

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Nyk Danu Yoga: again. And this is where I would encourage teachers to

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Nyk Danu Yoga: like to use your and Paul. Paul does. Paul said the same thing when I interviewed him. Critical thinking he was like.

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Nyk Danu Yoga: this is one thing that would change the world. Critical thinking. You know, if you

551
00:41:04.320 –> 00:41:06.430
Nyk Danu Yoga: if you aren’t questioning

552
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Nyk Danu Yoga: everything

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Nyk Danu Yoga: especially, and I find that especially if somebody points it out like, because then I I find there’s a lot of defensiveness which, of course, is human. But you know, there’s just so many people, for example, like with the whole.

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Nyk Danu Yoga: you shouldn’t be saying stretch, and it’s like well.

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Nyk Danu Yoga: I mean.

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Leta: Same

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Leta: good story.

558
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Nyk Danu Yoga: Scratch, not be a synonym for reach, and if I’m doing this with my arm, am I not stretching my arm away from my body like, how far are we going to go into this? You know? And also, you know this idea that I think a lot of

559
00:41:41.391 –> 00:41:44.830
Nyk Danu Yoga: maybe newer yen teachers have that like

560
00:41:45.340 –> 00:41:47.650
Nyk Danu Yoga: muscle and fascia are separate.

561
00:41:47.720 –> 00:41:55.539
Nyk Danu Yoga: and in yin we are just working with the fascia, and in other forms of yoga, it’s like, we’re not. That’s not how it works. Actually.

562
00:41:55.540 –> 00:41:56.830
Leta: Separated out.

563
00:41:56.830 –> 00:41:58.430
Nyk Danu Yoga: Yes. So it’s like.

564
00:41:58.650 –> 00:42:01.500
Nyk Danu Yoga: sure you want to talk about tension and compression. Do it?

565
00:42:01.730 –> 00:42:07.140
Nyk Danu Yoga: Want to talk? You want to use the word stretch fine. But yeah, people get very attached right to their.

566
00:42:08.100 –> 00:42:12.309
Nyk Danu Yoga: Their words and their and words mean so many different things to different people.

567
00:42:12.590 –> 00:42:13.440
Leta: Right.

568
00:42:13.440 –> 00:42:16.110
Nyk Danu Yoga: You ever. If you ever want a perfect example of that.

569
00:42:16.160 –> 00:42:17.819
Nyk Danu Yoga: just look at the word God.

570
00:42:18.270 –> 00:42:18.930
Leta: Hmm.

571
00:42:18.930 –> 00:42:25.569
Nyk Danu Yoga: Right like I’ve had people ask me, do you believe in God? And the 1st thing I say is, well, I can’t answer that unless I know how you’re defining it.

572
00:42:26.070 –> 00:42:26.890
Leta: Humor.

573
00:42:26.890 –> 00:42:30.960
Nyk Danu Yoga: Like, what’s your definition of God? You tell me, and then I’ll tell you if I believe that or not.

574
00:42:31.360 –> 00:42:32.090
Leta: Hmm.

575
00:42:32.090 –> 00:42:41.409
Nyk Danu Yoga: Cause. Otherwise, I mean, I think, people I’ve I’ve heard people have huge debates over something at the end to realize that actually they had the exact same opinion. They just were using different language, you know.

576
00:42:42.130 –> 00:42:42.800
Nyk Danu Yoga: So

577
00:42:43.020 –> 00:42:46.920
Nyk Danu Yoga: I would love if you don’t mind to maybe share some of those

578
00:42:46.990 –> 00:42:48.639
Nyk Danu Yoga: yin words.

579
00:42:48.640 –> 00:42:51.709
Leta: Sure I did pull it up here.

580
00:42:52.752 –> 00:42:55.889
Leta: Yeah, they’re verbs. They’re verbs, because

581
00:42:56.030 –> 00:43:02.740
Leta: those are the movers, and when you have few words you can. That’s a little tip from writing. You swap out the verb.

582
00:43:02.940 –> 00:43:08.220
Leta: It lets you say more with less. So like often

583
00:43:08.320 –> 00:43:09.510
Leta: sense

584
00:43:09.620 –> 00:43:11.020
Leta: unwind.

585
00:43:11.060 –> 00:43:12.370
Leta: release.

586
00:43:12.620 –> 00:43:14.310
Leta: attune to

587
00:43:14.450 –> 00:43:15.650
Leta: settle.

588
00:43:16.080 –> 00:43:17.740
Leta: fall open.

589
00:43:17.860 –> 00:43:19.140
Leta: rest back.

590
00:43:19.800 –> 00:43:21.320
Leta: lean into

591
00:43:21.430 –> 00:43:23.280
Leta: ease in or out.

592
00:43:23.700 –> 00:43:25.050
Leta: dissolve.

593
00:43:25.610 –> 00:43:27.210
Leta: integrate.

594
00:43:27.390 –> 00:43:28.650
Leta: witness.

595
00:43:29.210 –> 00:43:30.570
Leta: observe

596
00:43:30.640 –> 00:43:31.670
Leta: neat.

597
00:43:31.790 –> 00:43:34.620
Leta: respond, illuminate.

598
00:43:35.050 –> 00:43:37.590
Leta: widen, immerse.

599
00:43:37.980 –> 00:43:39.110
Leta: shift.

600
00:43:39.380 –> 00:43:40.600
Leta: pause.

601
00:43:40.710 –> 00:43:41.950
Leta: notice.

602
00:43:42.310 –> 00:43:43.720
Leta: embrace.

603
00:43:43.860 –> 00:43:45.060
Leta: except

604
00:43:45.190 –> 00:43:47.744
Leta: absorb, loosen. Should I go on.

605
00:43:48.170 –> 00:43:49.130
Nyk Danu Yoga: It’s not good.

606
00:43:51.553 –> 00:43:54.739
Leta: Invite, restore, recognize.

607
00:43:54.990 –> 00:43:57.699
Leta: fill, slide into.

608
00:43:59.420 –> 00:44:05.189
Leta: feel free, infuse, greet, return, allow.

609
00:44:05.260 –> 00:44:07.559
Leta: calm, yield.

610
00:44:07.970 –> 00:44:09.200
Leta: listen.

611
00:44:09.580 –> 00:44:10.960
Leta: expand.

612
00:44:11.340 –> 00:44:12.800
Leta: unravel.

613
00:44:12.860 –> 00:44:14.230
Leta: deliver.

614
00:44:14.730 –> 00:44:15.990
Leta: be with.

615
00:44:16.290 –> 00:44:17.530
Leta: relax.

616
00:44:17.900 –> 00:44:19.320
Leta: connect, to

617
00:44:19.600 –> 00:44:21.130
Leta: migrate.

618
00:44:21.510 –> 00:44:22.690
Leta: float.

619
00:44:22.720 –> 00:44:29.279
Leta: inhabit, merge, fold, linger. It’s always a good one. Melt.

620
00:44:30.520 –> 00:44:33.020
Leta: deliver, drop into

621
00:44:33.340 –> 00:44:36.899
Leta: tune in undo, unlock, unwrap, give

622
00:44:37.780 –> 00:44:38.980
Leta: beautiful

623
00:44:39.110 –> 00:44:40.160
Leta: yeah.

624
00:44:41.680 –> 00:44:45.593
Leta: I mean I I just it’s gathered them in one place.

625
00:44:45.920 –> 00:44:50.219
Nyk Danu Yoga: Yeah, but it’s but I mean there are so many there that I wouldn’t have thought of.

626
00:44:50.520 –> 00:44:50.900
Leta: That is.

627
00:44:50.900 –> 00:44:59.659
Nyk Danu Yoga: As soon as you said them. I was like, yes, like I. I feel that, you know, and then I’ve imagined that the listeners would have heard other words

628
00:44:59.940 –> 00:45:02.219
Nyk Danu Yoga: than I did that really, you know.

629
00:45:02.220 –> 00:45:02.680
Leta: Plan.

630
00:45:02.680 –> 00:45:04.229
Nyk Danu Yoga: With them, you know.

631
00:45:05.730 –> 00:45:08.640
Nyk Danu Yoga: yeah, just so beautiful. So I think

632
00:45:08.840 –> 00:45:09.870
Nyk Danu Yoga: you know.

633
00:45:10.740 –> 00:45:18.350
Nyk Danu Yoga: as teachers who’ve been teaching for a while, and then also as teacher trainers. There’s always that fine line between.

634
00:45:18.840 –> 00:45:21.819
Nyk Danu Yoga: I want you. I want to prepare you

635
00:45:22.360 –> 00:45:23.750
Nyk Danu Yoga: to succeed.

636
00:45:24.070 –> 00:45:24.760
Leta: Hmm.

637
00:45:24.760 –> 00:45:25.750
Nyk Danu Yoga: And

638
00:45:26.530 –> 00:45:29.510
Nyk Danu Yoga: I want you to find your own path, too.

639
00:45:30.283 –> 00:45:33.109
Nyk Danu Yoga: And I find that that’s such a.

640
00:45:34.730 –> 00:45:40.420
Nyk Danu Yoga: It’s just such a fine line. I’m wondering how like, how do you navigate that when you’re training teachers.

641
00:45:41.870 –> 00:45:46.680
Leta: I really just try to encourage them, like

642
00:45:47.000 –> 00:45:48.750
Leta: to be themselves.

643
00:45:49.220 –> 00:45:54.380
Leta: I do that, I mean, and just to know, like, no matter what you’re not gonna be for everyone.

644
00:45:54.650 –> 00:45:58.839
Leta: I just had someone come to my class the other day

645
00:45:59.040 –> 00:46:00.970
Leta: who, you know, was

646
00:46:02.680 –> 00:46:07.109
Leta: said like, Oh, I’m a yin teacher, and I was like great welcome.

647
00:46:07.880 –> 00:46:12.020
Leta: And this person was, you know, a little bit

648
00:46:15.020 –> 00:46:20.657
Leta: visibly sort of restless during the class. And I was like, Oh, okay, but

649
00:46:21.120 –> 00:46:30.210
Leta: I kind of because she had said that she was a teacher. I was a little bit like, all right. I’m going to give her space. I didn’t want to go, like, you know, over there too much to.

650
00:46:30.460 –> 00:46:34.969
Leta: I figure like she knows what she’s doing. Do you know what I mean? Cause the end user?

651
00:46:35.060 –> 00:46:49.279
Leta: And I was surprised afterwards she had said to me or not so directly to me, but you know we have our front desk calling up our introductory offer. People to, you know. See how they’re finding everything. And she had given feedback that

652
00:46:49.640 –> 00:46:53.580
Leta: it wasn’t spiritual enough for her. And I was like, Well.

653
00:46:54.020 –> 00:46:54.910
Leta: okay.

654
00:46:55.800 –> 00:46:57.469
Nyk Danu Yoga: Wow, hey, yeah.

655
00:46:57.470 –> 00:47:02.979
Leta: I’m like, you know. My, that’s not my my way is not to kind of, you know.

656
00:47:03.250 –> 00:47:04.919
Leta: Beat you over the head with

657
00:47:05.480 –> 00:47:10.667
Leta: with that it’s like an invitation to be present. It’s it’s not

658
00:47:11.440 –> 00:47:14.050
Leta: sort of overtly spiritual. If you will.

659
00:47:14.050 –> 00:47:14.760
Nyk Danu Yoga: Yeah.

660
00:47:14.970 –> 00:47:15.869
Leta: So yeah, it’s gonna.

661
00:47:15.870 –> 00:47:18.610
Nyk Danu Yoga: And spiritual is such a vague word

662
00:47:19.230 –> 00:47:25.370
Nyk Danu Yoga: right? Because I mean, what is totally spiritual to somebody is not gonna be to them. It’s like the word God, right like.

663
00:47:25.370 –> 00:47:25.820
Leta: Right.

664
00:47:25.820 –> 00:47:26.399
Nyk Danu Yoga: What that means.

665
00:47:26.400 –> 00:47:26.930
Leta: Yeah.

666
00:47:26.930 –> 00:47:28.979
Nyk Danu Yoga: Person and someone else I mean, like.

667
00:47:29.500 –> 00:47:30.430
Leta: Yeah, but I.

668
00:47:30.430 –> 00:47:31.040
Nyk Danu Yoga: Yeah.

669
00:47:31.460 –> 00:47:34.249
Leta: You know it is what it is because I

670
00:47:34.490 –> 00:47:35.420
Leta: that’s

671
00:47:36.370 –> 00:47:42.559
Leta: I teach in the way that is authentic to me. I teach you know I speak in the way that

672
00:47:43.820 –> 00:47:58.920
Leta: feels natural to me. Of course I you know I have done background work. I have thought about queues and what those are. But I try to just speak naturally in the moment. It’s not like, you know, written out or something.

673
00:47:58.980 –> 00:48:03.140
Leta: So yeah, we’re not going to be for everybody. I think we we.

674
00:48:04.570 –> 00:48:11.619
Leta: as Paul has always said, like, there, you know, Yoga is a big tent, and there are so many different kinds of people in the world, and

675
00:48:11.800 –> 00:48:20.366
Leta: one person is going to be excited and you know, interested to hear about your fascia.

676
00:48:21.310 –> 00:48:25.959
Leta: Weaving through your you know your whole body, and and this

677
00:48:26.337 –> 00:48:38.510
Leta: how we’re waiting for a phase change in the in the water, rich portion of the fashion. This, you know, release sensation that you’re feeling, and another person wants to hear the roomy quotes, and

678
00:48:38.890 –> 00:48:40.589
Leta: Job is to

679
00:48:41.280 –> 00:48:49.089
Leta: be authentically you, and then you will attract the people who resonate with that. So it’s fine. I wasn’t for her.

680
00:48:49.690 –> 00:48:52.690
Leta: But yeah, I’m not for everyone.

681
00:48:52.930 –> 00:48:53.290
Nyk Danu Yoga: Yeah.

682
00:48:53.290 –> 00:48:54.739
Leta: Nope, for everyone.

683
00:48:54.740 –> 00:49:00.840
Nyk Danu Yoga: I think I think that there’s a whole bunch of new teachers right now that have just breathed us huge sigh of relief, hearing that. Yeah.

684
00:49:00.840 –> 00:49:01.290
Leta: Hi.

685
00:49:01.290 –> 00:49:01.650
Nyk Danu Yoga: Yeah.

686
00:49:01.650 –> 00:49:05.140
Leta: I mean, you gotta be yourself. You gotta be yourself.

687
00:49:05.140 –> 00:49:09.650
Nyk Danu Yoga: And trust that there’s so many Yoga teachers out there that they will find their person

688
00:49:09.720 –> 00:49:14.840
Nyk Danu Yoga: right. They will find the teacher that is like Aha! She will find the teacher that is

689
00:49:14.910 –> 00:49:16.399
Nyk Danu Yoga: spiritual enough. Air quote.

690
00:49:16.400 –> 00:49:18.560
Leta: Whatever that means. You know exactly.

691
00:49:18.920 –> 00:49:22.580
Leta: In my 1st teacher training with Jimmy Barkin he

692
00:49:22.610 –> 00:49:25.679
Leta: showed us. Do you know who Diamond Dallas Page is?

693
00:49:25.680 –> 00:49:26.640
Nyk Danu Yoga: Yeah, yeah.

694
00:49:26.640 –> 00:49:28.760
Leta: Okay, the wwf, like.

695
00:49:28.760 –> 00:49:29.530
Nyk Danu Yoga: Do, because.

696
00:49:29.530 –> 00:49:30.999
Leta: I was also a yoga teacher.

697
00:49:31.000 –> 00:49:39.189
Nyk Danu Yoga: I was. Yes, I was. Gonna say, I watched his documentary several years ago, but the reason that I know who he is little peek behind the curtain of Nick’s childhood.

698
00:49:39.515 –> 00:49:39.770
Leta: Yes.

699
00:49:40.103 –> 00:49:42.770
Nyk Danu Yoga: My father is a was a wrestling fan.

700
00:49:42.860 –> 00:50:08.329
Nyk Danu Yoga: and so, and my parents were divorced. But one of the things that we did with my dad is like a bonding thing when we went over on weekends is, you know, we’d all go down into the basement, and he’d be on the couch, and like one daughter each would kind of curl up, and he’d put his arms around us, and we’d put our heads on his chest, and like we’d watch wrestling together. So so. Yes, I know. I don’t know a lot of the more current wrestlers, because, of course, childhood was a long time ago. But I definitely know, yeah.

701
00:50:09.010 –> 00:50:12.960
Leta: Yeah. So well, he is a yoga teacher. Now, right?

702
00:50:13.400 –> 00:50:29.570
Leta: And there is a documentary. It’s on Youtube. It’s called Enlighten Up. It was about this journalist Guy, whose friends are all like, Oh, my God! You have to start yoga! It’s gonna change your life, it transform my life. And so he goes around, and he practices with. Like

703
00:50:30.680 –> 00:50:33.510
Leta: all of these different teachers and style.

704
00:50:33.510 –> 00:50:33.860
Nyk Danu Yoga: Human.

705
00:50:33.860 –> 00:50:34.300
Leta: Jasper.

706
00:50:34.300 –> 00:50:35.650
Nyk Danu Yoga: And while, though, yeah.

707
00:50:35.880 –> 00:50:37.390
Leta: Yeah. So one of the

708
00:50:37.430 –> 00:50:41.590
Leta: one of the clips from there is him going to

709
00:50:41.680 –> 00:50:45.669
Leta: practice with Diamond Dallas Page. And it is like.

710
00:50:46.830 –> 00:50:49.380
Leta: really? What’s the word like?

711
00:50:49.400 –> 00:50:52.280
Leta: Oh, Chintzy, I don’t know, you know. It’s.

712
00:50:52.280 –> 00:50:52.650
Nyk Danu Yoga: And he.

713
00:50:52.650 –> 00:50:58.659
Leta: The way that he’s portrayed is like they’re on this little strip, and it’s kind of like a hooters, commercial and.

714
00:50:58.660 –> 00:50:59.090
Nyk Danu Yoga: Told.

715
00:50:59.090 –> 00:51:00.149
Leta: Diamond down. I remember.

716
00:51:00.150 –> 00:51:00.480
Nyk Danu Yoga: Seen.

717
00:51:00.480 –> 00:51:13.100
Leta: Saying, they’re like, you know, make sure if you want to get a good shot like, get the girls when they’re doing the cat cow from this angle, and you just you just exactly that you’re watching like. Oh, my God!

718
00:51:13.100 –> 00:51:13.530
Nyk Danu Yoga: Cringing.

719
00:51:13.530 –> 00:51:15.050
Leta: That yes.

720
00:51:15.050 –> 00:51:16.200
Nyk Danu Yoga: Yes. Yeah.

721
00:51:16.200 –> 00:51:20.480
Leta: And so Jimmy Barkin showed us this trip, this this clip.

722
00:51:21.150 –> 00:51:31.020
Leta: And then he showed us another clip, which was, I think, a viral video on Youtube or something. And it’s about a guy who was in the military.

723
00:51:31.020 –> 00:51:31.930
Nyk Danu Yoga: Yes.

724
00:51:32.380 –> 00:51:33.520
Leta: Have you seen that one.

725
00:51:33.520 –> 00:51:34.250
Nyk Danu Yoga: With a cold.

726
00:51:34.250 –> 00:51:38.399
Leta: The song, and it makes you cry every time. And it’s

727
00:51:39.480 –> 00:51:50.839
Leta: his. You know, this life changing transformation that this guy has. And then it’s Diamond Dallas Page who’s the one who speaks the language that this you know, military veteran

728
00:51:51.240 –> 00:51:52.200
Leta: like

729
00:51:52.790 –> 00:51:59.869
Leta: that touched, you know, that touched him, that worked for him that like, there’s an audience out there for all of us. So yeah, yeah.

730
00:51:59.870 –> 00:52:06.716
Nyk Danu Yoga: It’s for those who haven’t seen it, and I have no idea if I’ll be able to find it to include it in the show notes, but if I can, I will.

731
00:52:06.960 –> 00:52:08.890
Nyk Danu Yoga: You know the this gentleman

732
00:52:08.930 –> 00:52:13.350
Nyk Danu Yoga: goes from like not being able to stand without 2 pains to.

733
00:52:13.350 –> 00:52:16.150
Leta: To running. Yes, that’s the one. Yes.

734
00:52:16.700 –> 00:52:17.480
Nyk Danu Yoga: So

735
00:52:17.660 –> 00:52:19.843
Nyk Danu Yoga: yeah, it’s interesting. Because,

736
00:52:21.320 –> 00:52:25.840
Nyk Danu Yoga: you know, speaking on that, nothing’s for everybody. Wordsmithing thing.

737
00:52:25.920 –> 00:52:33.210
Nyk Danu Yoga: One of the reasons that for years this maybe only happened. Maybe I’m like, time feels very weird

738
00:52:33.270 –> 00:52:41.370
Nyk Danu Yoga: over Covid. I’m like, hasn’t it? Only been one year? No, it’s been 4. Okay, probably maybe 4 or 5 years ago is when I started.

739
00:52:41.440 –> 00:52:44.280
Nyk Danu Yoga: including one poem

740
00:52:44.440 –> 00:52:46.009
Nyk Danu Yoga: in my yin classes.

741
00:52:46.070 –> 00:52:53.240
Nyk Danu Yoga: and before that I never did. And the reason I didn’t is because all of the Yoga classes that I went to

742
00:52:54.050 –> 00:52:59.550
Nyk Danu Yoga: where the teacher, you know, lovely teachers, lovely souls, lovely humans.

743
00:52:59.840 –> 00:53:01.340
Nyk Danu Yoga: would share a poem.

744
00:53:01.930 –> 00:53:12.050
Nyk Danu Yoga: The poem was always a little bit saccharine, a little bit too rhymy, or a little bit too. Pollyanna kind of like

745
00:53:12.870 –> 00:53:15.190
Nyk Danu Yoga: those for me. And you know

746
00:53:15.310 –> 00:53:16.850
Nyk Danu Yoga: it. That just isn’t

747
00:53:17.530 –> 00:53:20.180
Nyk Danu Yoga: it? It just never felt grounded.

748
00:53:20.890 –> 00:53:28.450
Nyk Danu Yoga: And the poems never felt like they resonated with, like my real life and my real human journey, and

749
00:53:29.280 –> 00:53:36.629
Nyk Danu Yoga: some of the mess that can go along with that and the the shadow, whereas I’m a more of a like. I’m a swim in the shadows, girl.

750
00:53:36.900 –> 00:53:37.670
Leta: And so.

751
00:53:37.670 –> 00:53:41.930
Nyk Danu Yoga: Years. I never! I was always like, oh, those Yoga teachers that

752
00:53:43.120 –> 00:53:47.898
Nyk Danu Yoga: of course you pulled out a wrote me quote, of course you know.

753
00:53:48.510 –> 00:53:54.219
Nyk Danu Yoga: Now I did have one teacher, friend, a colleague, who, when she brought out music

754
00:53:54.450 –> 00:53:56.890
Nyk Danu Yoga: or poetry, it was

755
00:53:57.080 –> 00:53:57.850
Nyk Danu Yoga: deep.

756
00:53:58.000 –> 00:54:05.710
Nyk Danu Yoga: and it was shadowy, and that was kind of the 1st example I had of like, oh, yeah, this could be done in a different way.

757
00:54:05.880 –> 00:54:11.689
Nyk Danu Yoga: But of course I didn’t. I didn’t stumble across poems that that sparked that for me.

758
00:54:11.730 –> 00:54:13.642
Nyk Danu Yoga: And then I found

759
00:54:14.700 –> 00:54:16.230
Nyk Danu Yoga: I found a poet

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Nyk Danu Yoga: teacher, author

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Nyk Danu Yoga: all around

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Nyk Danu Yoga: Badass of feminine wisdom. Her name is Maya Luna, or is it Maya Luna? And I read a couple of her poems, and was just like Whoa, like.

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Leta: Like cool.

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Nyk Danu Yoga: Now we’re talking. So then I started using some of hers, and then it’s almost like.

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Nyk Danu Yoga: you know. They often say that when the student is ready.

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Nyk Danu Yoga: the teacher appears it was like that with poetry for me. It’s like once I found her.

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Nyk Danu Yoga: and kind of carved out some of her poems to put in the magic iphone to share during class. Then there was a flood of like I would just be on Facebook for, like the whole 5 min, not in a group, and somebody would have posted a poem, and I’d be like

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Nyk Danu Yoga: Whoa, that is epic, and I would, you know. So then it became this collection.

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Nyk Danu Yoga: But it started with just that one author. And then I think I just attracted

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Nyk Danu Yoga: this kind of more deeper, soulful.

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Leta: Hmm.

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Nyk Danu Yoga: You know, stuff that’s not afraid to speak to the.

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Leta: Yes.

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Nyk Danu Yoga: The shadow aspects of life. You know.

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Leta: Yeah.

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Nyk Danu Yoga: And again, not every teacher is for everybody, because somebody might come to my class and hear that deep, dark cello music and that poem that I shared in the end and be like Jesus. Where’s my unicorns and rainbows like

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Nyk Danu Yoga: I need. I need. I need some light here, like what you know.

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Leta: And don’t get.

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Nyk Danu Yoga: Be wrong. My classes are not depressing, but I’m not afraid to.

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Nyk Danu Yoga: I’m not afraid to to dig deep, to support those in the room. That may be struggling, because I do think in our wellness spaces that it can be a little bit too good, vibes only

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Nyk Danu Yoga: to the point where people that maybe are really struggling or suffering show up and feel like

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Nyk Danu Yoga: everybody else is doing great. And I’m the only one who’s suffering, you know.

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Nyk Danu Yoga: So. But yeah, we all have our our thing. And that actually, just in the last 24 h. Well, by the time you hear this. It’ll been many more than 24 h in the in the Facebook group popped up where somebody asked for poems on kind of like or Nidra’s on, you know, kind of fall, and letting go, and like fall seasons. And somebody in the comments said, Why don’t you just Google that? And I was like, Oh, my God! The hours I have spent on Google trying to find a poem

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Nyk Danu Yoga: that I liked, that I mean, I was like, Oh, and I said. That takes way too long.

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Nyk Danu Yoga: I said, even with like super

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Nyk Danu Yoga: detailed keywords.

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Leta: Yeah.

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Nyk Danu Yoga: It’s like all you get is like old, old English poems, or like really rhymey kind of like, like, not even

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Nyk Danu Yoga: subtle rhyme schemes like, we’re talking like obvious rhyme stuff, you know. And that’s just not my jam. So it’s like, no, no, I totally get what she’s asking, you know.

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Nyk Danu Yoga: Because it.

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Nyk Danu Yoga: Yeah, it takes time to find stuff like that.

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Nyk Danu Yoga: It does. And then, you know, I do share one poem.

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Nyk Danu Yoga: and then I use my languaging when I need to. But then there’s plenty of room for space, and I’ve been to classes where

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Nyk Danu Yoga: the teacher has a theme, and then uses a poem on that theme in a different one. In every single pose.

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Leta: At.

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Nyk Danu Yoga: And for me that just pulls me out of my body too much.

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Nyk Danu Yoga: you know. I don’t have that intraceptive if I’m listening to, because because I’m I’m into words so much that I’ll be like listening.

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Leta: So much.

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Nyk Danu Yoga: That I’m not able to to drop in.

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Leta: Yeah, that was the other feedback

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Leta: which this teacher gave, which was that she just left us there.

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Leta: I was like.

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Leta: Yep, yeah.

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Nyk Danu Yoga: I mean. That’s very much. I remember Paul saying that, and one of one of the trainings I took with him, Paul, saying that that, like

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Nyk Danu Yoga: you choose your way as a teacher is. He’s a just leave you their teacher.

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Leta: Yeah.

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Nyk Danu Yoga: He didn’t say who it was, but I have a feeling it might be he’s like. But then there’s the teachers who are like, you know. Maybe perhaps in 4 breaths you feel like you could go deeper, or you. They’re like kind of

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Nyk Danu Yoga: gently coaching you the whole way.

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Nyk Danu Yoga: I tend to base that on when I’m doing a drop in class on how many new people there are?

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Nyk Danu Yoga: Yeah, although that would not have worked with her because she was a teacher.

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Leta: Yeah.

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Nyk Danu Yoga: So that yeah, but I do, you know, I’ll I’ll ask people as they’re laying down to put one hand on their belly if they’re brand new to yen.

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Nyk Danu Yoga: and then I may talk a little bit more at the beginning of class, just about what is he and how it’s different. Here’s what you can expect before I move into

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Nyk Danu Yoga: the quietude.

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Nyk Danu Yoga: Yeah.

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Leta: Oh, I.

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Nyk Danu Yoga: Get to be quiet.

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Leta: More

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Leta: sort of guidance. And just because I feel like our words are kind of giving a you know, a little bit more of a structure and a holding of the space. And so, yeah, I’m always in the beginning

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Leta: part of the class, talking a little bit more. You know, I check in a little bit more

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Leta: during during maybe while they’re in the pose. But as it goes on and I’m hoping that they’re going deeper, I’m

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Leta: I’m getting quieter.

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Nyk Danu Yoga: So that they can settle into themselves.

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Leta: Yeah, absolutely.

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Nyk Danu Yoga: Yeah.

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Nyk Danu Yoga: Yeah. And I know that is one of the things that

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Nyk Danu Yoga: I find most especially when they either newer teachers or just newer to yin even struggle with the most is like like you said, like you’re at the front of the room. They’re all in there

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Nyk Danu Yoga: now. What do I do? What do I say? You know? And there’s there’s such a discomfort with

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Nyk Danu Yoga: just

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Nyk Danu Yoga: sitting and holding your space.

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Leta: Somebody’s.

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Nyk Danu Yoga: The teacher.

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Nyk Danu Yoga: What any thoughts on that like, especially in the beginning, when you started moving from a style of like we’re talking a lot to like

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Nyk Danu Yoga: like, how did you ease yourself into that transition, or did you find that difficult to move from a talkie talkie talkie in my flow? And then I.

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Leta: Yeah.

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Nyk Danu Yoga: Don’t!

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Leta: For me. It’s it. Wasn’t that difficult. I don’t think

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Leta: I but I think that it’s been so long. Also, I don’t remember.

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Leta: Well, I I what I think is this that

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Leta: like when you’re teaching, it’s the same thing as when you’re practicing. You’re you’re sort of like energetically plugging in. It’s all. But it’s almost like, instead of just your body. The room is your body. Yeah, you know what I mean.

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Leta: And so you are feeling like, are they? You can feel the energy if they’re like fidgeting around, and they’re sort of like not settling. That’s when you might.

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Leta: you know, drop in one little

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Leta: one little word, yeah, one little one, little nugget for them. And

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Leta: I I. So I feel like once somebody somebody who’s new. Once they get over their nervousness.

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Leta: And they’re they’re okay with, like just being up there. If they can really just sort of ground and tune into what is happening in the space and in the room and respond to that, then it becomes easier to just embrace like

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Leta: we are here. They are there. They don’t need me right this moment to like

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Leta: bombard with words.

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Nyk Danu Yoga: Yes, because I hear so many teachers say, well, I mean I I talk, or I I guide because people are so uncomfortable with the silence. And I’m like.

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Leta: Huh!

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Nyk Danu Yoga: But the uncomfortable is part of the experience.

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Leta: Hmm.

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Nyk Danu Yoga: Right like.

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Nyk Danu Yoga: You’re never going to be comfortable with silence unless you’re 1st uncomfortable with silence.

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Nyk Danu Yoga: Yeah, that journey from Jeez. I’m uncomfortable. Why is that teacher saying anymore. It’s like, Oh, okay. She gave me some words. I’ll see if I can embody those and like, Oh, now I’m bored. And jeez, you know, like that journey

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Nyk Danu Yoga: is part of the inexperience and.

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Nyk Danu Yoga: As they go through that they they learn more and more how to be comfortable with less talking and guidance. But they’re never going to get there if you are.

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Nyk Danu Yoga: I don’t want to use the word, because I don’t mean it in this way, but if you’re babying them, or hold hand, holding them overly. Much, you know, like, yes. And this is why, if there are new people in the room, I do explain. Here’s how Yen is different.

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Nyk Danu Yoga: We’re gonna have moments of still in quiet when we do, here’s what’s going to happen with your brain, you know.

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Nyk Danu Yoga: That’s normal. The person next to you, despite the fact that they look all blissed out, also doing the thinking so like, let’s just, you know, like, let’s just let that be known. We’re all in this together, this loopy thought thing. You know. So I try to just normalize it and give some tools. And then I just

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Nyk Danu Yoga: stop. You know.

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Nyk Danu Yoga: Because the yeah, the discomfort is, I mean, imagine, if

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Nyk Danu Yoga: you know, I actually this sounds crazy, I know. But I remember learning to walk.

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Nyk Danu Yoga: I know that sounds bizarre, but I remember it because and I asked my dad about it. So I know that

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Nyk Danu Yoga: that this is accurate.

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Nyk Danu Yoga: I remember the sting on my hands when I would fall and the lino would hit my hand, and I remember what the linoleum looked like. That’s how I know it’s real cause? I asked my dad. It’s like in that apartment the lino did it look like

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Nyk Danu Yoga: but imagine if, when your baby was learning to walk.

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Nyk Danu Yoga: and every time they were about to fall down you rushed in to catch them.

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Leta: Like.

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Nyk Danu Yoga: How are they ever going to learn to stand on their own feet?

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Nyk Danu Yoga: Now? Of course you’re not going to let them fall right onto the the edge of the coffee table and crack their head open. I mean, if you have any say about it, obviously, but like they have to fall on their butts a few times and on their hands

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Nyk Danu Yoga: before they go. Oh, this is how I do this! And then, even when they start walking, they’re going to look sort of like a drunken sailor for a while until they kind of get find their footing.

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Leta: I know.

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Nyk Danu Yoga: To me it feels the same way in a yin class. It’s like, yes, people are going to be really uncomfortable

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Nyk Danu Yoga: in the beginning, because we don’t. I mean, some people do. Some people are wise, and they take lots of still, quiet time, and they’re out in nature a lot, and they are kind of unplugged, and maybe they’re not on Instagram.

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Nyk Danu Yoga: those gurus, but like for the most of us, you know, we’re rushing and.

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Leta: Hmm.

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Nyk Danu Yoga: You know, and things are loud and things are busy. And so then, when we all of a sudden.

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Nyk Danu Yoga: you know, move into the cocoon of a yin space, and all of a sudden it’s like dim and quiet in there.

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Nyk Danu Yoga: There isn’t all this external stimulus to like.

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Leta: No, no.

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Nyk Danu Yoga: Pay attention to

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Nyk Danu Yoga: course. That’s hard.

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Nyk Danu Yoga: you know. Yeah.

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Nyk Danu Yoga: but it’s also so worthwhile

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Nyk Danu Yoga: to let your students flounder just a little and find their own footing there.

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Leta: Yeah, I think that’s what we’re doing there.

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Nyk Danu Yoga: Yeah, yeah.

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Leta: It’s oh.

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Nyk Danu Yoga: Beautiful. What advice would you give

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Nyk Danu Yoga: now? I know it’s probably this might be hard for you to answer, because you are a wordsmith.

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Leta: If a team.

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Nyk Danu Yoga: Teachers at the point where they’re like.

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Nyk Danu Yoga: I think I want to start exploring.

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Nyk Danu Yoga: My own words, like the words that I was trained with are kind of not quite it.

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Nyk Danu Yoga: but I haven’t found my own.

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Nyk Danu Yoga: What what kind of advice would you give that teacher that’s at that place in their teaching where they’re like. I don’t want to parent my teacher, but I’m also not quite there yet, with like.

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Leta: Yeah.

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Nyk Danu Yoga: Own tools in my tool belt.

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Leta: I think

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Leta: you do want to sort of open your ears and listen for

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Leta: what cues other teachers are giving. I do think in the beginning, like, you know, that’s important, like, what are the ones that really land with you?

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Leta: Definitely. It’s a place to start. And I do think like there’s nothing wrong with

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Leta: like sitting down and thinking about like I feel like are just repeating. Just relax, just relax, relax. What else could you? What else might you say?

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Leta: That might be more concrete and specific, but still feels like you.

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Leta: and then I think it. You just have to.

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Leta: you know, work to expand your vocabulary, your queuing vocabulary, test it out.

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Leta: If it you know it might not feel natural to come off your tongue in the beginning, but if you

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Leta: get more comfortable with just sort of knowing

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Leta: what the different ways to say things are. Then I think that eventually, you know, you find your way, you just.

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Leta: You can find inspiration from so many places. I do also look at a lot of poetry.

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Leta: Some very. And I don’t necessarily read always like an entire poem. But I might find a, you know, a phrasing, or

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Leta: metaphor, or something in there that

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Leta: would work its way into a class.

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Leta: So I think you know, there’s inspiration for language all around.

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Leta: there’s nothing wrong with using a thesaurus or a dictionary.

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Nyk Danu Yoga: Say, I actually love a good Thesaurus.

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Leta: Yeah, like, I love a good thesaurus, I mean.

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Leta: shout out.

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Nyk Danu Yoga: Waste a whole Saturday night doing that.

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Leta: I know.

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Nyk Danu Yoga: Because you know you, you put in one word, and then it gives you all these other words.

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Leta: Yes.

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Nyk Danu Yoga: Might be like taking those words, and before you know it, woo.

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Leta: Yeah.

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Leta: yeah, it takes you down rabbit hole. I love the online power thesaurus like a modern. I don’t know what it it’s like. Just seems to be somehow better than any other.

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Leta: You know there’s nothing wrong with the the source. There. There’s there are many places that you can

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Leta: find words, and then you have to test them out, and then you have to get comfortable with them and

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Leta: figure out like what feels natural for you.

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Leta: And you. It’s not like you’re gonna take your little scrap of paper there. You have to then be in the moment feeling what is happening, and allow those words to

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Leta: come from within. You.

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Nyk Danu Yoga: Yes.

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Nyk Danu Yoga: how I came up with the word resonance.

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Leta: Hmm.

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Nyk Danu Yoga: Bound, actually happened at land of the Medicine. Buddha.

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Leta: Because they.

936
01:08:49.700 –> 01:08:52.830
Nyk Danu Yoga: Had that they have that big bell. If you kind of go up near the 4.

937
01:08:52.830 –> 01:08:53.180
Leta: Yeah.

938
01:08:53.180 –> 01:08:57.289
Nyk Danu Yoga: I was like using the big wooden, you know, log to like.

939
01:08:57.290 –> 01:08:57.680
Leta: In the back.

940
01:08:57.680 –> 01:09:01.340
Nyk Danu Yoga: And then I would just stop, and I would just kind of feel

941
01:09:01.580 –> 01:09:08.529
Nyk Danu Yoga: that resonance of the bell on my skin in my body. And that’s when the Aha hit me. I was like.

942
01:09:08.960 –> 01:09:09.450
Leta: Yeah.

943
01:09:09.450 –> 01:09:11.110
Nyk Danu Yoga: And I come out of a yin post.

944
01:09:11.580 –> 01:09:12.050
Leta: Yeah.

945
01:09:12.050 –> 01:09:18.449
Nyk Danu Yoga: And then I was like, you know, at the beginning it does. It feels like that resonance. It’s quite strong. And then by the end. It feels like a linger.

946
01:09:18.520 –> 01:09:21.469
Nyk Danu Yoga: you know, when it’s like I’ve taken my minute.

947
01:09:21.520 –> 01:09:33.240
Nyk Danu Yoga: you know, to do the rebound, which is what Paul calls it. But I’ve taken my minute to begin to well, to notice, to feel, to feel like my familiar self, and, you know, kind of just before I’m about to move into something else. There’s

948
01:09:33.470 –> 01:09:39.499
Nyk Danu Yoga: it’s no longer really a resonance, as just a little bit of a linger. And so that’s kind of how that

949
01:09:39.670 –> 01:09:41.100
Nyk Danu Yoga: language

950
01:09:41.149 –> 01:09:48.010
Nyk Danu Yoga: came to me was, you know, from feeling something else in my body that made me go. Oh, this feels like

951
01:09:50.279 –> 01:09:55.839
Nyk Danu Yoga: yeah. And I, for example, I know I had a teacher once, and gosh! I wish I could

952
01:09:56.020 –> 01:09:57.369
Nyk Danu Yoga: say who it was

953
01:09:57.530 –> 01:10:01.840
Nyk Danu Yoga: who had this whole thing, because I would love to give them credit, but I don’t know who it is.

954
01:10:02.224 –> 01:10:10.010
Nyk Danu Yoga: This whole thing that they kind of said, you know, as you were settling into Shavasan, and most of it didn’t resonate with me

955
01:10:10.230 –> 01:10:16.079
Nyk Danu Yoga: but a simple phrase, as the space between your muscles and your bones.

956
01:10:16.520 –> 01:10:16.870
Leta: Hmm.

957
01:10:16.870 –> 01:10:18.910
Nyk Danu Yoga: Me, and I was like Whoa

958
01:10:19.230 –> 01:10:20.080
Nyk Danu Yoga: like

959
01:10:20.240 –> 01:10:21.730
Nyk Danu Yoga: when I can

960
01:10:21.770 –> 01:10:27.049
Nyk Danu Yoga: think about the space between my muscles and my bones like there’s just like a softening there.

961
01:10:27.050 –> 01:10:27.690
Leta: Hello!

962
01:10:27.690 –> 01:10:31.699
Nyk Danu Yoga: That for me really hit. And so, you know, I I began to use that

963
01:10:31.720 –> 01:10:33.170
Nyk Danu Yoga: tiny phrase.

964
01:10:33.960 –> 01:10:36.810
Nyk Danu Yoga: In, in my own, in my own way, and with other.

965
01:10:36.810 –> 01:10:37.150
Leta: Yeah.

966
01:10:37.150 –> 01:10:41.250
Nyk Danu Yoga: Around it that made more sense to me. So yeah, sometimes we do hear.

967
01:10:41.810 –> 01:10:47.659
Nyk Danu Yoga: you know, just a snippet from somebody. But then we’re like, yeah, but the rest wasn’t right. And that’s where you get to. Really.

968
01:10:47.950 –> 01:10:48.500
Nyk Danu Yoga: you know.

969
01:10:48.500 –> 01:10:54.490
Leta: Yeah. And from your body I love that. That’s exactly it. Like, get on your mat.

970
01:10:54.630 –> 01:11:01.780
Leta: Do your practice journal right? How did it feel those same, you know.

971
01:11:01.920 –> 01:11:04.420
Leta: Let it let the language bubble up.

972
01:11:05.100 –> 01:11:08.033
Nyk Danu Yoga: Yeah, that is something that

973
01:11:10.680 –> 01:11:12.399
Nyk Danu Yoga: I feel like

974
01:11:13.650 –> 01:11:17.550
Nyk Danu Yoga: is really different from when I took my teacher training

975
01:11:18.069 –> 01:11:22.400
Nyk Danu Yoga: and how they are. Now, you know, when I took my 1st teacher training.

976
01:11:22.540 –> 01:11:40.230
Nyk Danu Yoga: so I I applied in 2,003 for those of us that are keeping track of dates. I always have to stop and think about them like what year was it? So I applied. In 2,003. We started in 2,003. We finished in 2,004. It was a it was nice. It was a like a year long thing

977
01:11:41.990 –> 01:11:49.880
Nyk Danu Yoga: which was great because it was really spread out, and it gave us all this time to really absorb the material. And then we even had mentorship included. So it was actually a 300 h.

978
01:11:51.590 –> 01:11:57.459
Nyk Danu Yoga: And I remember when I applied, though in order to get into this teacher training.

979
01:11:57.740 –> 01:12:05.649
Nyk Danu Yoga: I had to have a home practice. You had to have a minimum like, I think 5 years of Yoga experience was the minimum.

980
01:12:05.740 –> 01:12:09.339
Nyk Danu Yoga: You had to have. A letter from a recommending teacher

981
01:12:10.070 –> 01:12:17.640
Nyk Danu Yoga: said, I think that you would be a good candidate, and it wasn’t based on like what Asana’s you could do. It was based on, like what they knew of you as a person.

982
01:12:18.008 –> 01:12:22.850
Nyk Danu Yoga: So you had to do all of that before there was even the here’s my credit card part.

983
01:12:23.270 –> 01:12:30.180
Nyk Danu Yoga: And now I feel like you know, people just take 2 Yoga classes, and then they’re doing a teacher training.

984
01:12:30.300 –> 01:12:31.790
Nyk Danu Yoga: And so.

985
01:12:32.090 –> 01:12:34.240
Nyk Danu Yoga: oh, and we had to have a home practice.

986
01:12:34.440 –> 01:12:39.380
Nyk Danu Yoga: And in our teacher training. We had to keep a home practice journal.

987
01:12:39.940 –> 01:12:41.590
Nyk Danu Yoga: and we had to hand it in.

988
01:12:42.110 –> 01:12:42.950
Leta: Hmm.

989
01:12:43.362 –> 01:12:47.070
Nyk Danu Yoga: Now, you know they weren’t. The journal wasn’t like.

990
01:12:47.290 –> 01:12:50.680
Nyk Danu Yoga: you know. This isn’t the place where you wrote like your deepest, most.

991
01:12:50.680 –> 01:12:51.679
Leta: Yeah, no, it wasn’t that.

992
01:12:51.680 –> 01:13:00.159
Nyk Danu Yoga: Kind of a journal, but it was like, you know, I did this sequence. Here’s how I felt next time I try. It’s that kind of a journal not so much like, you know.

993
01:13:00.390 –> 01:13:10.599
Nyk Danu Yoga: deep, soulful secrets, journal, and you had to hand that in at the end of the semester, and you were marked on, not on what you did, but on the fact that you were practicing.

994
01:13:10.830 –> 01:13:12.699
Nyk Danu Yoga: And I think I’ve

995
01:13:12.720 –> 01:13:21.110
Nyk Danu Yoga: think that a lot of the younger generation of teachers just doesn’t have a home practice, and they rely on going to the studio

996
01:13:21.140 –> 01:13:22.590
Nyk Danu Yoga: for their practice.

997
01:13:23.190 –> 01:13:24.190
Nyk Danu Yoga: And

998
01:13:25.830 –> 01:13:27.160
Nyk Danu Yoga: I’m gonna just

999
01:13:27.230 –> 01:13:33.749
Nyk Danu Yoga: call that out. But I’ll but also call you in, if that’s you, if you’re listening, and you just went, or I don’t have a home practice.

1000
01:13:33.900 –> 01:13:38.150
Nyk Danu Yoga: Is that one of the reasons that you struggle with words

1001
01:13:38.580 –> 01:13:48.570
Nyk Danu Yoga: is because you’re not hearing your internal voice alone in your own home practice. If all of the Asana that you’re doing is guided by an external voice

1002
01:13:48.820 –> 01:13:50.580
Nyk Danu Yoga: and their words.

1003
01:13:51.060 –> 01:13:54.659
Nyk Danu Yoga: Of course it’s going to be a struggle to come up with your own words.

1004
01:13:54.750 –> 01:13:59.220
Nyk Danu Yoga: so as as uncomfortable as it makes people to hear.

1005
01:13:59.310 –> 01:14:04.050
Nyk Danu Yoga: Your home practice is what, in my opinion, grows you as a teacher.

1006
01:14:04.420 –> 01:14:05.480
Leta: Because everything.

1007
01:14:05.480 –> 01:14:13.109
Nyk Danu Yoga: Everything that yeah, everything that you’re teaching comes from your own experience. And I remember my very 1st teacher training the teacher saying that, like.

1008
01:14:13.630 –> 01:14:20.370
Nyk Danu Yoga: you know you. You can’t teach what you don’t practice. And she meant physically, but she also meant mentally and emotionally, like.

1009
01:14:21.390 –> 01:14:24.060
Nyk Danu Yoga: You know, if you can’t sit in your sorrow.

1010
01:14:24.480 –> 01:14:25.140
Leta: Yes.

1011
01:14:25.140 –> 01:14:26.919
Nyk Danu Yoga: Can you speak to sorrow?

1012
01:14:27.150 –> 01:14:29.190
Leta: Yes, if you don’t.

1013
01:14:29.890 –> 01:14:32.640
Nyk Danu Yoga: Yes, if you can’t celebrate your bliss, how can.

1014
01:14:32.640 –> 01:14:33.560
Leta: Right.

1015
01:14:33.560 –> 01:14:34.130
Nyk Danu Yoga: Teach, that.

1016
01:14:34.130 –> 01:14:34.570
Leta: Not.

1017
01:14:34.570 –> 01:14:35.320
Nyk Danu Yoga: Yeah, it.

1018
01:14:35.320 –> 01:14:37.859
Leta: You don’t embody the Yin

1019
01:14:39.190 –> 01:14:45.169
Leta: vibe, you know. How can you communicate it so absolutely?

1020
01:14:45.500 –> 01:14:46.220
Nyk Danu Yoga: Yeah.

1021
01:14:47.230 –> 01:14:55.140
Nyk Danu Yoga: yes. So there, hopefully is some inspiration for teachers, but also like a little bit of a you know truth bomb there.

1022
01:14:55.250 –> 01:14:56.249
Nyk Danu Yoga: that you know.

1023
01:14:57.340 –> 01:15:02.070
Nyk Danu Yoga: if you’re never, if you’re never practicing on your own, you will always be using other people’s words.

1024
01:15:02.270 –> 01:15:02.980
Leta: Yeah.

1025
01:15:02.980 –> 01:15:03.570
Nyk Danu Yoga: Yeah.

1026
01:15:04.160 –> 01:15:07.050
Leta: I think that’s very really good advice.

1027
01:15:07.440 –> 01:15:09.849
Nyk Danu Yoga: Yeah. And like you said.

1028
01:15:09.900 –> 01:15:12.910
Nyk Danu Yoga: we all start with other people’s words.

1029
01:15:13.340 –> 01:15:16.319
Leta: Do sit with them. And sometimes, yeah.

1030
01:15:16.320 –> 01:15:21.440
Nyk Danu Yoga: And for me, and I don’t know if this is similar for you. It’s not like that stopped.

1031
01:15:21.820 –> 01:15:31.539
Nyk Danu Yoga: It’s not like I’ve stopped evaluating the words that I’m using. As we mentioned earlier, like, I noticed that I say the word just, and I’m like, what is up with that. I didn’t notice that for years

1032
01:15:31.770 –> 01:15:34.600
Nyk Danu Yoga: it wasn’t until my awareness became honed

1033
01:15:34.830 –> 01:15:40.680
Nyk Danu Yoga: so much with verbiage, and being so intentional with my words that I was like, huh!

1034
01:15:41.190 –> 01:15:42.560
Nyk Danu Yoga: And I think a great

1035
01:15:42.740 –> 01:15:45.920
Nyk Danu Yoga: tip can be is to just record yourself.

1036
01:15:46.140 –> 01:15:46.990
Leta: Teaching.

1037
01:15:47.340 –> 01:15:51.709
Nyk Danu Yoga: Like, even just on your iphone, like the audio, and then listen back to it and be like.

1038
01:15:52.230 –> 01:15:52.980
Nyk Danu Yoga: Oh.

1039
01:15:53.130 –> 01:15:58.340
Nyk Danu Yoga: is that really what I meant there? Or is that the best word for that? Or is that you know

1040
01:15:58.520 –> 01:16:01.229
Nyk Danu Yoga: it can be? It can be hard, it can be difficult to do, but.

1041
01:16:01.230 –> 01:16:03.546
Leta: Yeah, you might be surprised.

1042
01:16:04.010 –> 01:16:09.709
Nyk Danu Yoga: Yes, definitely. Well, that’s how I found out about just I was listening back to myself, going

1043
01:16:10.410 –> 01:16:14.490
Nyk Danu Yoga: well, how many times have you said that word in this hour. Long practice, you know.

1044
01:16:16.420 –> 01:16:22.930
Nyk Danu Yoga: So how do you continue now with your wordsmithing? Does it still come from just your practice, and

1045
01:16:23.220 –> 01:16:26.920
Nyk Danu Yoga: like, do you? Do you? Do you write little notes to yourself afterwards?

1046
01:16:27.952 –> 01:16:29.968
Leta: No, I don’t.

1047
01:16:30.640 –> 01:16:32.500
Nyk Danu Yoga: Whatever happens, lands.

1048
01:16:32.500 –> 01:16:38.240
Leta: I am like a I am like a walk in and teach kind of a

1049
01:16:38.270 –> 01:16:40.261
Leta: kind of a person.

1050
01:16:41.180 –> 01:16:41.850
Leta: Oh, I meant.

1051
01:16:41.850 –> 01:16:42.170
Nyk Danu Yoga: In, your.

1052
01:16:42.170 –> 01:16:44.640
Leta: That practice comes out. What comes out. Oh, in my own practice.

1053
01:16:44.640 –> 01:16:45.390
Nyk Danu Yoga: Yes, yes.

1054
01:16:45.390 –> 01:16:48.469
Leta: I mean I journal, I do. Journal.

1055
01:16:49.430 –> 01:16:50.350
Leta: I

1056
01:16:50.500 –> 01:16:51.650
Leta: I

1057
01:16:52.060 –> 01:17:01.159
Leta: I don’t always write after every single you know time that I sit, or that I do a practice, but I do. I do write.

1058
01:17:01.550 –> 01:17:02.840
Nyk Danu Yoga: If something pops up.

1059
01:17:03.410 –> 01:17:06.439
Leta: Yeah, yeah, absolutely. And

1060
01:17:07.180 –> 01:17:09.899
Leta: I think it’s a you know.

1061
01:17:10.170 –> 01:17:16.480
Leta: I do try to make it like my teaching part of my practice. Do you know what I mean, like this thing of

1062
01:17:16.640 –> 01:17:19.339
Leta: of being present and trying to

1063
01:17:20.490 –> 01:17:32.454
Leta: open myself as sort of a conduit for what? What needs to come out, or what I I am speaking from my from my own body, from my own experience. But

1064
01:17:33.800 –> 01:17:36.670
Leta: yeah, I I honestly, I don’t

1065
01:17:37.840 –> 01:17:41.109
Leta: plan or overthink. I. Just

1066
01:17:41.170 –> 01:17:44.699
Leta: at this point I just go in, and I just let it come out.

1067
01:17:44.700 –> 01:17:46.630
Nyk Danu Yoga: I’m the same. I’m the same.

1068
01:17:48.250 –> 01:17:50.920
Nyk Danu Yoga: I never, unless it’s a workshop like a theme.

1069
01:17:50.920 –> 01:17:51.359
Leta: Yeah, that’s.

1070
01:17:51.360 –> 01:17:54.499
Nyk Danu Yoga: I never have, like a predetermined sequence.

1071
01:17:54.500 –> 01:17:55.145
Leta: Exactly.

1072
01:17:56.590 –> 01:17:57.414
Leta: Yeah, me, too.

1073
01:17:57.690 –> 01:18:08.769
Nyk Danu Yoga: I also check in with the students when I’m at the beginning, too, to just see like, where is everybody at, you know. So we all just. They all share like a word or a phrase, you know, and it could be hamstrings, or it could be grief or.

1074
01:18:09.230 –> 01:18:09.610
Leta: I’m running.

1075
01:18:09.610 –> 01:18:15.460
Nyk Danu Yoga: Don’t want to share. There’s a hand signal to let me know they don’t want to share and that’s how I

1076
01:18:15.730 –> 01:18:17.010
Nyk Danu Yoga: create my class.

1077
01:18:17.050 –> 01:18:20.620
Nyk Danu Yoga: Yeah, based on what they say, but also what I witness.

1078
01:18:22.230 –> 01:18:34.859
Nyk Danu Yoga: appearing in the room. You know, there are times that I might have a quote in my phone, or a poem pinned as like this is the one I’ll use this week. And then, based on what they’re all sharing, I’m like that is not the one we’re using this week, you know.

1079
01:18:35.390 –> 01:18:37.729
Nyk Danu Yoga: we’re going to use this one instead, because.

1080
01:18:37.730 –> 01:18:38.350
Leta: Yeah.

1081
01:18:38.350 –> 01:18:40.129
Nyk Danu Yoga: This is what the people

1082
01:18:40.200 –> 01:18:44.170
Nyk Danu Yoga: need in this moment. Now, I would not have done that as a new teacher.

1083
01:18:44.698 –> 01:18:50.229
Nyk Danu Yoga: Because I’m way, too, recovering a type and also anxious personality type to just like

1084
01:18:50.820 –> 01:18:52.100
Nyk Danu Yoga: show up and

1085
01:18:52.180 –> 01:18:53.220
Nyk Danu Yoga: wing it.

1086
01:18:54.210 –> 01:19:02.560
Nyk Danu Yoga: Which is what I would have thought I like. I would have looked at me now, and thought that I’m just showing up and winging it, and I’m not winging it at all. It’s based on

1087
01:19:02.770 –> 01:19:04.000
Nyk Danu Yoga: years of experience.

1088
01:19:04.920 –> 01:19:05.840
Leta: Yeah.

1089
01:19:05.840 –> 01:19:09.039
Nyk Danu Yoga: It’s flexible, but I’m not winging it. I’m not just like.

1090
01:19:09.040 –> 01:19:09.430
Leta: Guy and.

1091
01:19:09.430 –> 01:19:12.929
Nyk Danu Yoga: So it’s like, it is very intentional. It’s just the intentionality is created

1092
01:19:12.980 –> 01:19:16.399
Nyk Danu Yoga: on the spot as opposed to like in advance. Yeah.

1093
01:19:16.400 –> 01:19:20.110
Leta: Yeah, which I do think ultimately

1094
01:19:20.980 –> 01:19:25.529
Leta: allows a teacher or a facilitator to

1095
01:19:27.350 –> 01:19:30.539
Leta: meet the students. You know more fully.

1096
01:19:30.540 –> 01:19:31.120
Nyk Danu Yoga: Yeah.

1097
01:19:31.450 –> 01:19:33.899
Nyk Danu Yoga: to me. It it shifted from.

1098
01:19:34.460 –> 01:19:39.020
Nyk Danu Yoga: I mean, I always started to teach Yoga because I wanted to be of service.

1099
01:19:39.260 –> 01:19:39.760
Leta: And the.

1100
01:19:39.760 –> 01:19:43.629
Nyk Danu Yoga: And I and the service. I wanted to be in this way with Yoga.

1101
01:19:45.090 –> 01:19:52.640
Nyk Danu Yoga: But when I let go of my sort of predetermined lesson plans is when I think I really stepped into that role of

1102
01:19:53.010 –> 01:19:58.690
Nyk Danu Yoga: Can I be of service to whatever’s coming up today in this room in this moment, with these people.

1103
01:19:59.130 –> 01:19:59.710
Leta: Yeah.

1104
01:20:00.110 –> 01:20:00.740
Nyk Danu Yoga: Yeah.

1105
01:20:02.610 –> 01:20:04.540
Nyk Danu Yoga: Beautiful. So

1106
01:20:04.650 –> 01:20:06.907
Nyk Danu Yoga: how has your

1107
01:20:08.910 –> 01:20:11.529
Nyk Danu Yoga: how is your teaching shifted from.

1108
01:20:11.990 –> 01:20:16.960
Nyk Danu Yoga: or has it over? Covid times? Because you know.

1109
01:20:16.960 –> 01:20:17.505
Leta: Okay.

1110
01:20:18.050 –> 01:20:19.070
Nyk Danu Yoga: Right.

1111
01:20:19.535 –> 01:20:32.559
Leta: Well, I mean, we all did. The, you know, went online and did that whole thing. And thankfully, I’m off that that was not my favorite period.

1112
01:20:33.075 –> 01:20:43.800
Leta: Of course we all, you know. I think it. See, it is such a weird time thing. It feels like long ago now, and almost like I can’t believe that it happened.

1113
01:20:44.910 –> 01:20:52.070
Leta: I think I thought we taught for like a year without any props, because everyone was like, Oh, you clean the props and

1114
01:20:53.790 –> 01:20:57.510
Leta: not. We’re kind of sort of back to normal here

1115
01:20:57.560 –> 01:20:58.940
Leta: in Finland.

1116
01:20:58.940 –> 01:21:01.559
Nyk Danu Yoga: For those of you who can’t see she just did air quotes.

1117
01:21:01.870 –> 01:21:02.830
Leta: Yeah, yeah.

1118
01:21:02.830 –> 01:21:04.420
Nyk Danu Yoga: It’s sort of back to normal.

1119
01:21:04.420 –> 01:21:04.989
Leta: I mean, it’s.

1120
01:21:04.990 –> 01:21:05.400
Nyk Danu Yoga: Yeah.

1121
01:21:05.400 –> 01:21:07.499
Leta: Whatever normal is

1122
01:21:08.167 –> 01:21:12.910
Leta: yeah, but so there wasn’t such a huge.

1123
01:21:13.810 –> 01:21:14.950
Leta: huge

1124
01:21:15.320 –> 01:21:18.260
Leta: shift for me like

1125
01:21:18.710 –> 01:21:20.223
Leta: that lasted.

1126
01:21:20.980 –> 01:21:24.679
Nyk Danu Yoga: Did you take your teacher training online as well? And then, now you’ve moved that back.

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01:21:24.680 –> 01:21:32.850
Leta: No, I didn’t. I did in person the whole time, because I have small groups, and you know we were apart and.

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01:21:32.850 –> 01:21:34.020
Nyk Danu Yoga: Right.

1129
01:21:34.020 –> 01:21:36.670
Leta: Masked up. And yeah.

1130
01:21:36.670 –> 01:21:40.679
Nyk Danu Yoga: And every part of the world had such a different

1131
01:21:40.980 –> 01:21:45.573
Nyk Danu Yoga: way of handling. And and in Canada.

1132
01:21:46.250 –> 01:21:54.252
Nyk Danu Yoga: first, st you’re originally American, so you’ll understand you. Our version of your States is provinces for those of you Americans listening and

1133
01:21:54.800 –> 01:22:06.480
Nyk Danu Yoga: although we have much fewer of them, and they are much larger, so fewer provinces, larger land! But that was under provincial domain, just like in the States, it was state to state, and so

1134
01:22:06.890 –> 01:22:11.009
Nyk Danu Yoga: what we were doing where I live was like

1135
01:22:11.180 –> 01:22:14.450
Nyk Danu Yoga: totally different than the province right next to me.

1136
01:22:15.013 –> 01:22:21.679
Nyk Danu Yoga: And so, and we there was a couple of provinces. So I live in British Columbia, and also Quebec

1137
01:22:21.760 –> 01:22:22.960
Nyk Danu Yoga: that were

1138
01:22:23.040 –> 01:22:24.050
Nyk Danu Yoga: like

1139
01:22:24.740 –> 01:22:29.180
Nyk Danu Yoga: ridiculous, actually, with with the the standards and the

1140
01:22:29.410 –> 01:22:32.640
Nyk Danu Yoga: the things that they put in. That’s a rant for a whole other time.

1141
01:22:32.710 –> 01:22:35.500
Nyk Danu Yoga: but because but we were closed

1142
01:22:35.860 –> 01:22:37.320
Nyk Danu Yoga: 5 times

1143
01:22:37.850 –> 01:22:47.330
Nyk Danu Yoga: completely, whereas I know, whereas most, and that’s because in the province I live in, Yoga is considered fitness, not wellness.

1144
01:22:47.630 –> 01:22:48.010
Leta: Hmm.

1145
01:22:48.010 –> 01:22:52.550
Nyk Danu Yoga: If we were wellness we would have been closed that one time that the whole world shut down.

1146
01:22:52.690 –> 01:23:06.129
Nyk Danu Yoga: and then they would have put in some principles and policies about sprays and masks, and distancing, and and life would have moved on like it did with massage therapists and acupuncturists, but because we were deemed fitness.

1147
01:23:06.320 –> 01:23:11.109
Nyk Danu Yoga: they kept shutting us down, and I do understand that there is a difference

1148
01:23:11.130 –> 01:23:17.170
Nyk Danu Yoga: between, like the yoga that I teach, which is very therapeutic, very gentle, and a lot of yin. And sometimes even in my

1149
01:23:17.190 –> 01:23:19.759
Nyk Danu Yoga: movement based classes, we don’t even stand up

1150
01:23:20.142 –> 01:23:25.789
Nyk Danu Yoga: and so there’s a big difference between that and a hot Yoga class, and I can understand how to some.

1151
01:23:26.130 –> 01:23:29.939
Nyk Danu Yoga: you know, bureau cat in the in the government doesn’t even do yoga like they.

1152
01:23:29.940 –> 01:23:30.630
Leta: Right.

1153
01:23:30.630 –> 01:23:34.939
Nyk Danu Yoga: Can’t. They can’t rectify how they would make both of those have the same.

1154
01:23:35.320 –> 01:23:36.200
Leta: Right.

1155
01:23:36.200 –> 01:23:39.339
Nyk Danu Yoga: But because the restrictions repeated so many times.

1156
01:23:39.790 –> 01:23:48.039
Nyk Danu Yoga: and then, when we were open, the rules changed like as often as you change your underwear like literally, every time I would go to the studio I’d be like.

1157
01:23:48.090 –> 01:24:01.659
Nyk Danu Yoga: Okay, so what’s the distancing now? Are we masking to our mats and then able to take them off? Are we wearing them a whole time? Are we not wearing them? Is there a passport in places? They’re not a vaccine like it was.

1158
01:24:01.840 –> 01:24:02.939
Nyk Danu Yoga: it was.

1159
01:24:03.470 –> 01:24:12.289
Nyk Danu Yoga: It was awful. But one of the things that it really gave me was the ability to even more so. Just kind of show up and be like, all right. What are we dealing with today? You know.

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01:24:12.290 –> 01:24:12.895
Leta: Right

1161
01:24:13.500 –> 01:24:18.410
Nyk Danu Yoga: But because we were so up and down and I actually always wanted to do

1162
01:24:18.893 –> 01:24:32.849
Nyk Danu Yoga: some online classes, just because I’m from Alberta and I now live in BC. And I had a student base there. So I was actually one of the few Yoga teachers planning to do a zoom class, even before Covid happened. And then I was just like, Oh, I guess we’ll start that right now.

1163
01:24:33.470 –> 01:24:35.990
Nyk Danu Yoga: But I’ve kept my training online.

1164
01:24:36.360 –> 01:24:37.100
Leta: Okay.

1165
01:24:37.100 –> 01:24:41.590
Nyk Danu Yoga: But again training. And and I am. I am just now at the point where I’m like.

1166
01:24:41.980 –> 01:24:47.510
Nyk Danu Yoga: maybe at some point. So I do fall and spring online. I keep the group small, though, because I’m

1167
01:24:48.520 –> 01:25:03.873
Nyk Danu Yoga: like you, I I like it to be a small group. I want to. I want to see everyone’s face. I want to know. I want to see the light in their eyes when they understand. I want to see if they’re overwhelmed. I want to be able to get to everyone’s questions, you know. So I don’t want it to ever be this.

1168
01:25:04.280 –> 01:25:06.759
Nyk Danu Yoga: here’s a bunch of pre recorded content.

1169
01:25:06.760 –> 01:25:07.450
Leta: Right.

1170
01:25:07.450 –> 01:25:12.350
Nyk Danu Yoga: Questions. I mean, not for a certificate program. Someone was auditing the course. Fine, but

1171
01:25:14.500 –> 01:25:16.820
Nyk Danu Yoga: so I am at the point now where I’m like.

1172
01:25:16.830 –> 01:25:20.530
Nyk Danu Yoga: I don’t think I’d want to do one in person locally, because

1173
01:25:20.950 –> 01:25:22.699
Nyk Danu Yoga: we’re quite small.

1174
01:25:23.150 –> 01:25:28.820
Nyk Danu Yoga: It’s a small city. I could but I you know, I’m almost at that point now where I’m like.

1175
01:25:29.250 –> 01:25:39.020
Nyk Danu Yoga: maybe I’ll start putting like a little teacher training in Mexico on the vision board. Maybe maybe that needs to happen once in the winter, or it’s like we all

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01:25:39.370 –> 01:25:51.570
Nyk Danu Yoga: go somewhere, because for me, I think that’s the best way to do an intensive is, if you are living life and like we did when you go to Lmb. Where it’s like, I don’t have to do laundry. I don’t have to cook.

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01:25:51.570 –> 01:25:53.389
Leta: Is the best I just have.

1178
01:25:53.390 –> 01:25:56.600
Nyk Danu Yoga: To like, focus on my studies and rest and self care.

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01:25:56.600 –> 01:25:57.020
Leta: That’s it.

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01:25:57.020 –> 01:25:57.710
Nyk Danu Yoga: Yeah.

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01:25:57.880 –> 01:26:04.948
Leta: If I had unlimited funds and unlimited possibility, it’s basically all I would do.

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01:26:05.420 –> 01:26:07.350
Nyk Danu Yoga: Right? Yes, yes.

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01:26:07.350 –> 01:26:07.780
Leta: Yeah.

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01:26:07.780 –> 01:26:25.680
Nyk Danu Yoga: No, if I had the unlimited funds which you know, the coffers are still filling due to covid times. Yeah, I would, I was. I said that to Paul once I’d be like I’d be at every damn thing you offered. If I know it’s like every year I’d be like, how many things are you doing? I’ll do all of them, you know, but you have to pick and choose.

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01:26:26.240 –> 01:26:26.969
Leta: Yeah, and.

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01:26:27.110 –> 01:26:32.430
Nyk Danu Yoga: How was it to see Paul and Susie, and maybe some other familiar faces again after.

1187
01:26:32.430 –> 01:26:35.849
Leta: Oh, it was amazing! It was so good.

1188
01:26:37.348 –> 01:26:38.816
Leta: so just

1189
01:26:40.650 –> 01:26:45.469
Leta: so inspiring. And there is nobody who can break it down like Paul.

1190
01:26:45.920 –> 01:26:46.700
Leta: While.

1191
01:26:46.840 –> 01:26:48.660
Leta: you know, just like

1192
01:26:49.000 –> 01:26:53.300
Leta: pairing it down to the essentials in language that you can

1193
01:26:53.520 –> 01:26:55.650
Leta: completely understand.

1194
01:26:55.740 –> 01:26:57.140
Leta: And yet

1195
01:26:58.400 –> 01:27:05.289
Leta: this, the dimension, like the the poetic dimension and the beauty and the mystery, and the

1196
01:27:05.921 –> 01:27:11.890
Leta: it’s just it’s it’s so wonderful, so wonderful! It was so it was a. It was a Gita training. So we were.

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01:27:11.890 –> 01:27:13.150
Nyk Danu Yoga: That’s the one I would do. Yeah.

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01:27:13.150 –> 01:27:17.610
Leta: It was. Yeah, it was. It was like, just my heart was like.

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01:27:19.200 –> 01:27:20.540
Leta: really good.

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01:27:20.540 –> 01:27:25.089
Nyk Danu Yoga: Yeah, he really does him and Susie really do have this gift of being

1201
01:27:25.850 –> 01:27:28.940
Nyk Danu Yoga: incredibly soulful and wise.

1202
01:27:28.940 –> 01:27:29.570
Leta: Hmm.

1203
01:27:29.570 –> 01:27:31.299
Nyk Danu Yoga: And keeping it simple.

1204
01:27:31.360 –> 01:27:33.790
Nyk Danu Yoga: and then cracking a really good joke like.

1205
01:27:33.790 –> 01:27:34.210
Leta: Yes.

1206
01:27:34.210 –> 01:27:34.600
Nyk Danu Yoga: All. It’s.

1207
01:27:34.600 –> 01:27:34.980
Leta: Yeah.

1208
01:27:34.980 –> 01:27:36.449
Nyk Danu Yoga: Like, it’s like.

1209
01:27:36.840 –> 01:27:41.899
Nyk Danu Yoga: how does how does that? How does this exist? All in one person, you know? Yeah.

1210
01:27:41.900 –> 01:27:50.839
Leta: It is, if you know, you know it’s the best. It’s the best. So hopefully get some more opportunities in the future.

1211
01:27:51.100 –> 01:27:53.449
Nyk Danu Yoga: Yeah, yeah, I hope to as well.

1212
01:27:54.278 –> 01:27:58.870
Nyk Danu Yoga: Well, this might be a good time to slowly start to wrap things up.

1213
01:27:59.375 –> 01:28:02.209
Nyk Danu Yoga: So you are doing teacher trainings. They’re in person.

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01:28:02.350 –> 01:28:10.469
Leta: I am doing teacher trainings. They are in person. I never. I mean, during Covid I personally purchased, probably like

1215
01:28:10.480 –> 01:28:14.299
Leta: 3 or 4 online courses that I’ve never completed, because

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01:28:14.660 –> 01:28:25.150
Leta: it’s hard to do for me, at least personally, to do online. So I’m I’m only in person. But I have my 2 studios here in Latvia, and I teach

1217
01:28:25.790 –> 01:28:28.379
Leta: like 5 or 6 days a week. Here you’re.

1218
01:28:28.380 –> 01:28:31.939
Nyk Danu Yoga: And you have family as well. You got a little one. So you got family life going on.

1219
01:28:31.940 –> 01:28:34.690
Leta: Yes. Yeah. So.

1220
01:28:35.450 –> 01:28:36.416
Nyk Danu Yoga: Yeah, it.

1221
01:28:37.460 –> 01:28:47.950
Nyk Danu Yoga: I’m with you on the online learning thing. I think that unfortunately, a lot of teachers just took their content and threw it online without understanding that we learn differently online.

1222
01:28:48.500 –> 01:28:55.610
Nyk Danu Yoga: You can’t do an 8 h straight through on a zoom online and expect that by hour 4. Anyone remembers anything you’re saying

1223
01:28:56.060 –> 01:29:02.620
Nyk Danu Yoga: like it just, you know, and and I did do that. I was at the time teaching for a Yoga therapy college, and that’s 1 of the reasons they

1224
01:29:02.750 –> 01:29:09.330
Nyk Danu Yoga: kind of stopped is that they? They took the modules and just put them online exactly as they are in person. And I’m like

1225
01:29:09.630 –> 01:29:16.449
Nyk Danu Yoga: by hour 4. I mean you could just see people glaze over like it was just like they’re they’re no longer here. It’s not.

1226
01:29:16.450 –> 01:29:16.860
Leta: Yeah.

1227
01:29:16.860 –> 01:29:20.550
Nyk Danu Yoga: As in person. It has to be done differently, for sure.

1228
01:29:20.650 –> 01:29:23.050
Nyk Danu Yoga: And I noticed myself

1229
01:29:23.780 –> 01:29:28.149
Nyk Danu Yoga: because I did the same. I took a few courses. Not that many. I just I tried to.

1230
01:29:28.250 –> 01:29:33.970
Nyk Danu Yoga: I did a couple like Yoga stuff, but then I mostly was just investing more in the business side

1231
01:29:34.470 –> 01:29:35.670
Nyk Danu Yoga: things that I took.

1232
01:29:36.310 –> 01:29:37.690
Nyk Danu Yoga: And

1233
01:29:38.340 –> 01:29:43.769
Nyk Danu Yoga: yeah, I’m I mean, I have add already. So like, attention is not.

1234
01:29:43.800 –> 01:29:51.570
Nyk Danu Yoga: The staying focused is already difficult for me without like moving and fidgeting. And so like, definitely, if it’s a zoom thing, it’s got to be in like small

1235
01:29:51.960 –> 01:29:57.760
Nyk Danu Yoga: doses, because that’s as long as I’m able to really absorb the information. Yeah.

1236
01:29:59.050 –> 01:30:02.579
Nyk Danu Yoga: beautiful. Well, my friend, I have some

1237
01:30:02.700 –> 01:30:06.240
Nyk Danu Yoga: little questions that I like to ask at the very end.

1238
01:30:06.700 –> 01:30:07.740
Leta: Okay.

1239
01:30:07.970 –> 01:30:08.910
Nyk Danu Yoga: And some of these are.

1240
01:30:08.910 –> 01:30:09.730
Leta: Bring it up.

1241
01:30:09.730 –> 01:30:12.109
Nyk Danu Yoga: And some of them are a little more soulful.

1242
01:30:12.930 –> 01:30:15.430
Nyk Danu Yoga: 1st one is coffee or tea.

1243
01:30:16.240 –> 01:30:21.949
Leta: Coffee. You cannot live in Finland and not drink coffee.

1244
01:30:22.520 –> 01:30:25.290
Nyk Danu Yoga: Now is that because they have amazing coffee, or because it gets dark.

1245
01:30:25.290 –> 01:30:29.860
Leta: No, the coffee is horrible. The coffee is horrible here. It’s like.

1246
01:30:30.780 –> 01:30:34.710
Leta: no, it’s because it’s just dark. It’s cold, I mean.

1247
01:30:35.030 –> 01:30:40.440
Leta: And everywhere you go. People are offering you coffee like when you go to someone’s house.

1248
01:30:40.840 –> 01:30:41.890
Leta: Yeah.

1249
01:30:41.890 –> 01:30:43.950
Nyk Danu Yoga: Yeah, yeah, very, I mean, I.

1250
01:30:43.950 –> 01:30:45.658
Leta: Not to drink coffee here.

1251
01:30:46.000 –> 01:31:04.379
Nyk Danu Yoga: I mean I you know, in in Canada. Here it’ll at some point. It’ll start getting dark at 4 pm. And I know you have it way. Worse than that, you know, being even more north. And so yeah, I can’t imagine an autumn winter season without coffee. It’s like, How’s that? Yeah. In the spring summer. I can. Yeah.

1252
01:31:06.210 –> 01:31:08.210
Nyk Danu Yoga: Favorite ice cream flavor.

1253
01:31:10.690 –> 01:31:11.309
Leta: Oh.

1254
01:31:13.070 –> 01:31:14.550
Leta: vanilla.

1255
01:31:15.910 –> 01:31:16.880
Nyk Danu Yoga: I love that.

1256
01:31:17.120 –> 01:31:17.839
Leta: I love you.

1257
01:31:17.840 –> 01:31:18.910
Nyk Danu Yoga: Said vanilla.

1258
01:31:19.730 –> 01:31:30.580
Nyk Danu Yoga: I I’ll often like I I have to do non dairy stuff now, but I’ll often scan, and if everything’s a bit too colorful and weird. That’s I’ll go for the good classic vanilla.

1259
01:31:30.750 –> 01:31:31.640
Nyk Danu Yoga: Yeah.

1260
01:31:32.350 –> 01:31:36.110
Nyk Danu Yoga: One thing people often get wrong about me.

1261
01:31:44.050 –> 01:31:46.329
Leta: One thing that people often get wrong about me.

1262
01:31:46.330 –> 01:31:47.070
Nyk Danu Yoga: Yeah.

1263
01:31:49.800 –> 01:31:53.360
Leta: People tend to think that I am

1264
01:31:53.760 –> 01:31:57.059
Leta: just a happy go, lucky

1265
01:31:57.130 –> 01:32:03.640
Leta: person, because I pre especially because I live here, and I present as very cheerful and American.

1266
01:32:03.940 –> 01:32:04.990
Nyk Danu Yoga: Hmm.

1267
01:32:05.640 –> 01:32:06.690
Nyk Danu Yoga: interesting.

1268
01:32:07.720 –> 01:32:12.979
Leta: So they don’t know that I that I am a person of death. Yes.

1269
01:32:13.330 –> 01:32:14.980
Nyk Danu Yoga: Shadows in here, too. Y’all.

1270
01:32:14.980 –> 01:32:16.010
Leta: Yes.

1271
01:32:17.307 –> 01:32:23.989
Nyk Danu Yoga: Do you have a pop culture vice like a show that you binge, or a book series, or a movie, or something that just like.

1272
01:32:23.990 –> 01:32:25.440
Leta: Oh, all of them.

1273
01:32:25.440 –> 01:32:26.810
Nyk Danu Yoga: All of them awesome.

1274
01:32:30.970 –> 01:32:35.660
Leta: I’m actually like a huge, alone fan which they mostly film in Canada.

1275
01:32:36.240 –> 01:32:39.110
Leta: I’m like massive fan of alone.

1276
01:32:39.110 –> 01:32:40.559
Nyk Danu Yoga: I don’t ever watch it

1277
01:32:40.630 –> 01:32:47.499
Nyk Danu Yoga: current time, because we don’t have like cable or TV, or whatever. But I but with our library card we can get.

1278
01:32:47.500 –> 01:32:48.160
Leta: Yes.

1279
01:32:48.160 –> 01:32:57.050
Nyk Danu Yoga: Stuff, and that I’ve I started binging them. And actually it was because the 1st one was because it was the very 1st one was on Vancouver Island. I was like, that’s where I live. Yeah. What the.

1280
01:32:57.050 –> 01:32:57.560
Leta: Yeah.

1281
01:32:57.560 –> 01:33:01.840
Nyk Danu Yoga: How did I not hear about this? So yeah, I love that show.

1282
01:33:02.030 –> 01:33:06.650
Nyk Danu Yoga: And now I realize how many survival skills I want to get under my belt.

1283
01:33:06.810 –> 01:33:07.370
Nyk Danu Yoga: I’m like.

1284
01:33:07.370 –> 01:33:08.230
Leta: Oh, wow!

1285
01:33:08.230 –> 01:33:19.529
Nyk Danu Yoga: Especially when they’re walking on Vancouver Island, and they’re just picking seaweed up, and they know what it is, and it’s edible. I’m like I go to the beach every day. How do I not know this like I need to learn about the mushrooms and the berries and the seaweed, and all the things. Yes.

1286
01:33:19.690 –> 01:33:23.229
Nyk Danu Yoga: it’s inspired a whole new set of hobbies that I want to learn.

1287
01:33:23.450 –> 01:33:25.889
Nyk Danu Yoga: Yes, that’s a that’s a good show. If if yeah.

1288
01:33:25.890 –> 01:33:26.809
Leta: Really good stuff.

1289
01:33:26.810 –> 01:33:27.140
Nyk Danu Yoga: Yeah.

1290
01:33:28.100 –> 01:33:30.720
Nyk Danu Yoga: And it’s so interesting, too, to watch people.

1291
01:33:31.790 –> 01:33:41.210
Nyk Danu Yoga: I found that when I watch it it’s always the what my partner and I will call the tough talker dirty walkers like that. The people that talk tough like I’m going to be the last one are usually the 1st ones out.

1292
01:33:41.210 –> 01:33:42.480
Leta: Yeah, and it’s yeah.

1293
01:33:42.480 –> 01:33:47.859
Nyk Danu Yoga: People where you’re looking at them at the beginning going. I don’t know if you’re going to make it, and they totally do so surprising

1294
01:33:48.880 –> 01:33:52.400
Nyk Danu Yoga: when I’m not practicing yoga. I am.

1295
01:33:54.810 –> 01:33:58.437
Leta: At this time of year I am hunting for mushrooms.

1296
01:33:59.000 –> 01:34:00.289
Nyk Danu Yoga: So you could teach me

1297
01:34:00.860 –> 01:34:02.350
Nyk Danu Yoga: some mushroom wisdom.

1298
01:34:05.620 –> 01:34:10.346
Nyk Danu Yoga: One weird fact about you, other than the fact that you watch alone.

1299
01:34:13.980 –> 01:34:20.310
Leta: one weird fact about me. I actually moved twice to Finland for love with different people.

1300
01:34:21.710 –> 01:34:22.810
Nyk Danu Yoga: What?

1301
01:34:22.810 –> 01:34:23.600
Leta: Is, that.

1302
01:34:23.600 –> 01:34:24.200
Nyk Danu Yoga: That.

1303
01:34:25.060 –> 01:34:25.910
Leta: Yes, absolutely.

1304
01:34:25.910 –> 01:34:26.970
Nyk Danu Yoga: Anything.

1305
01:34:27.180 –> 01:34:29.680
Leta: But many years apart, and.

1306
01:34:29.680 –> 01:34:32.070
Nyk Danu Yoga: Were obviously meant to be in Finland.

1307
01:34:32.070 –> 01:34:35.059
Leta: I feel like I have some kind of karmic connections. Yes.

1308
01:34:35.140 –> 01:34:36.590
Leta: there we go.

1309
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Nyk Danu Yoga: That’s amazing.

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Nyk Danu Yoga: What the world needs now is.

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Leta: To unplug.

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Nyk Danu Yoga: Good one.

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Nyk Danu Yoga: Right after you finish listening to this episode.

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Leta: Yeah.

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Nyk Danu Yoga: One thing I wish people knew about yin yoga.

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Leta: I

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Leta: wish that they knew that it’s not just about

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Leta: feeling good and enjoying. I mean, I think that’s a

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Leta: hopefully a part of it. But, like you said sometimes, it’s not that comfortable.

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Leta: Yeah.

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Nyk Danu Yoga: It can be a bit

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Nyk Danu Yoga: The word I often use is unearthing.

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Leta: Yeah.

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Leta: It’s you gotta be with yourself.

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Leta: And

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Leta: sometimes that’s not easy.

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Nyk Danu Yoga: And sometimes it is not to scare everybody. But there are definitely practices where I’m like,

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Nyk Danu Yoga: really, I need to look at that, you know, and then there’s other practices where I’m just in, like.

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Nyk Danu Yoga: you know.

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Leta: Right.

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Nyk Danu Yoga: Yin yoga ghasms the whole time, you know. It’s just like.

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Leta: Right.

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Nyk Danu Yoga: Oh yes!

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Leta: Yeah.

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Nyk Danu Yoga: Is there anything that I forgot to ask you that you’d like to add.

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Leta: Not that I can think of no.

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Nyk Danu Yoga: Awesome.

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Nyk Danu Yoga: Well, we’ll say our proper goodbyes when I stop recording.

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Nyk Danu Yoga: but for those of you listening

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Nyk Danu Yoga: bye, for now.

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Leta: Bye.